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I have a dream :)

Postby efe » Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:29 am

Imagine a brotherhood (possibly under EU) between Turkey, Greece and a United Cyprus. No borders, just peace. A world where Greek Cypriots come to visit Hagia Sophia freely, and Turks visit Limmasol freely. A world where you can sail to all the coasts of the Aegean freely.

I have a dream! :D Have your moment. Imagine. :)
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Postby boulio » Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:45 am

can i have some of that stuff yor smoking :D
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Postby efe » Fri Jan 21, 2005 5:04 am

do they cell cigarettes in cyprus. i no in north they do. :)

PS: as far as i remember, they sell british ones dont they?
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Postby pantelis » Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:41 am

I have a dream! Have your moment. Imagine.


Give it 20 years, Efe(ndi)!
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Postby Mills Chapman » Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:20 am

But what can we do now in precise terms that if we had done it 20 years ago, we would indeed be enjoying this dream today? :?: :?: :?:
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Postby magikthrill » Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:38 am

keep dreaming!

hehehe. i'm just joking.

That is a very nice idea efe and I don't believe that it is something unattainable. Call me naive, but I feel that's the advantage the EU has over the US. Maybe there are ulterior motives but the EU seems to have more pacifistic ideas in terms of foreign policy and treatment of other countries.

Of course, everybody would need to get act their act together for this dream to become a reality.

In terms of GCs they only thing they would need to do i make sure they do not go back to pre-74 treatment of TCs. Of course I don't think there is a problem of that occuring.

As far as TCs and Turkey I don't know what to say. Now as for the Hellenic Republic? What can I say? How much more can they bend over to Turkey?
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Postby Mills Chapman » Fri Jan 21, 2005 8:00 am

[I feel that's the advantage the EU has over the US. Maybe there are ulterior motives but the EU seems to have more pacifistic ideas in terms of foreign policy and treatment of other countries.]

I think we're all in agreement on that one, and I'm even American.
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Re: I have a dream :)

Postby Alexandros Lordos » Fri Jan 21, 2005 8:03 am

efe wrote: A world where Greek Cypriots come to visit Hagia Sophia freely


Hmm, just visit Hagia Sophia, as the museum it has become today, or pray in it as the Christian sacred place it once was? Does your dream include having the Hagia Sophia returned to the Orthodox Christians?
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Postby brother » Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:23 pm

Alex you are splitting hairs, if that eutopia is achieved it will not matter.
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Re: I have a dream :)

Postby cannedmoose » Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:18 pm

Alexandros Lordos wrote:Hmm, just visit Hagia Sophia, as the museum it has become today, or pray in it as the Christian sacred place it once was? Does your dream include having the Hagia Sophia returned to the Orthodox Christians?


Why not be more innovative than this Alex. How about Hagia Sophia becoming a universal place of worship, with one wing as an Orthodox cathedral and the other as the mosque it is today? As for Hagia Sophia being a 'museum', have you been to Kykkos recently? It's hardly an uplifting religious experience is it.

Even though I am Orthodox, whenever I am in Cyprus I always make a point of visiting the Selimiye mosque (St. Sophia) in Lefkosia. Personally I am as happy to pray in a mosque as in a church, so why be pedantic about it? Attitudes like this will only lead us down the Jerusalem route.
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