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Postby cypezokyli » Tue May 08, 2007 12:29 am

oh jesus... another one.
how many times the same discussion :roll:

let me try this , this time : let us assume we are indeed greeks and turks. my reply to this is :

so ?
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Postby LENA » Tue May 08, 2007 12:30 am

karma wrote: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Dare u eat dolmades , mousakka , kokoretsi, kadaifi from now on..
Dare u dance tsiftetelli...


karma his problem is that he eat those stuff he is not eating shieftalies...he is from Greece and he want all of us to be Greek as well...he doesnt respect our nationality!!!
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Postby karma » Tue May 08, 2007 12:30 am

cypezokyli wrote:oh jesus... another one.
how many times the same discussion :roll:

let me try this , this time : let us assume we are indeed greeks and turks. my reply to this is :

so ?


so
there will be an answer , let it beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Postby karma » Tue May 08, 2007 12:34 am

LENA wrote:
karma wrote: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Dare u eat dolmades , mousakka , kokoretsi, kadaifi from now on..
Dare u dance tsiftetelli...


karma his problem is that he eat those stuff he is not eating shieftalies...he is from Greece and he want all of us to be Greek as well...he doesnt respect our nationality!!!


shieftalies has anything to do with sheftali?? sheftali means peach in turkish?? can u check it for me??
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Postby Kifeas » Tue May 08, 2007 12:36 am

TOTIS MILIOTIS wrote:My Dears, both,

The nationality is somehing which is given to people on basis of certain creteria.

When you are passing the "borders" t visit your occupied villages the Tuks ae giving you a small piece of paper - pls be care hy are equsting NATIONALITY NOT CITITENSHIP.You all Greeks of Cypru are stating "CYPRIOT" WRONG AND WRONG.

Where, in which school in whih historical conclusions you found a Cypriot Nationality? No here- You are doing so by a habit. If you ask the ol Cypiots (Greeks) they will ell you that i the ISLAND ARE TURKS AND CRISTIAN (ASK YOUR GRANDMOTHER TO SEE) they d no ay Turks and Greeks but Turks and Cristians. The BRITISH DID VERY WELL JOB THERE.

About Greek Americand and Australians, can you magine these people to cooperate with NAZIS like "Turkish Cypriots are doing with the invated army? What would be the rection of USA OR Australian state? They ould continue to give them citenship rights, ids, passports?

The problem here my dears are the power. They hav presently the militry power and e, he Greeks in Cyprus, donsing their song, thats all.

My deepest respect


TOTIS MILIOTIS, I understand your English may not be as good and are deceiving you.

The term Nationality is nowadays equivalent with citizenship! What you probably do is to confuse it with the term ethnicity, just because ethnicity derived from the Greek word "ethnicotis!" The term nationality is arbitrarily translated in Greek as "ethnicotis!" The proper translation in Greek of the term "nationality" is "Ithagenia" or "ipikootis," and of Nation as "Kratos!"

http://www.in.gr/dictionary/lookup.asp? ... &x=33&y=12

Your confusion comes from the fact that in Greek –even though we have an abundance of words and terms to use, we tend use only use the word "ethos" and "ethnicotis," interchangeably, to sometimes imply the equivalent in English of “Nation” or “nationality,” and sometimes to imply the equivalent of an “ethnic cultural entity” or a race.

For example, we refer in Greek to the "United Nations organisation" as "organismos Inomenon ethnon," but in reality we want to mean "organismos Inomenon kraton." In another case we refer to the concept "ethnos ton Ellinon" as "the Greek nation" in English, but in reality we want to mean "Hellenism" or the "Greek race" in a general and global sense.

The term “Nation” (kratos, politia, chora in Greek) has a political and a legal meaning and use. The term “ethnicity” or “ethnic” (fili, ratsa, genos in greek) has a cultural anthropology meaning and use. In Greek, we use “ethnos” or “ethnicotis” to mean both of the above concepts, and this practice I beilive should be abandoned!
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Postby LENA » Tue May 08, 2007 12:40 am

karma wrote:
LENA wrote:
karma wrote: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Dare u eat dolmades , mousakka , kokoretsi, kadaifi from now on..
Dare u dance tsiftetelli...


karma his problem is that he eat those stuff he is not eating shieftalies...he is from Greece and he want all of us to be Greek as well...he doesnt respect our nationality!!!


shieftalies has anything to do with sheftali?? sheftali means peach in turkish?? can u check it for me??


Sorry Karma...I have no idea...why they name them like that but...NO sieftalies has nothing to do with peaches
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Postby TOTIS MILIOTIS » Tue May 08, 2007 12:46 am

let me try this , this time : let us assume we are indeed greeks and turks. my reply to this is :

so ?




My freinds , i so and respect your reactions. However lets say that we create a freindship and one Nationality after Greeks occupy 37 per cent of Turkey not vice versa. lways Turks are coming with freindship, and they convist also some "so called" educated (by whom?) Greeks always after they occupty a Grek population area (Minor Asia, Cyprus etc).

The problem my freinds Greek Cypriots is that if your perents and grandfathers were thinking like you (Worlscitizens, no nationality, no culture, no religion, ) then this topic would have no mean and necessity ofdiscission. You are living a life gave to you by your perents and you do not respect it. Only machines, robots, are not feeling the roots of there history . Be hapy in your iron word let us die with our ideas and hopes. You ae to young to teach us the life and the history. Historical periods with people like you are many in the books. Always colapsed, chaos and no humanity progress.


Somon wrote, another one, no my freinds Iam not an other one, I am the one.!!!! I am aying so because I am not feel any necessity inside me to defend of my words. I believe same deeply and persons like you are not in position to change a refugee hard because you maY not and I HOPE YOU NEVER OBTAIN A REFUGEE HARD.

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Postby TOTIS MILIOTIS » Tue May 08, 2007 1:00 am

The term Nationality is nowadays equivalent with citizenship! What you probably do is to confuse it with the term ethnicity, just because ethnicity derived from the Greek word "ethnicotis!" The term nationality is arbitrarily translated in Greek as "ethnicotis!" The proper translation in Greek of the term "nationality" is "Ithagenia" or "ipikootis," and of Nation as "Kratos!"


Dear Kitheas,

Th problem here is that he pice pf paper in "boarders" is issued and publsished by Turks and not Greeks, therefore the meaning of thev word "NATIONALITY" is "ETHNIKOTHS".

BRGDS
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Postby Get Real! » Tue May 08, 2007 1:00 am

TOTIS MILIOTIS wrote:YOU NEVER OBTAIN A REFUGEE HARD.

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What did I tell you Zan? he's ready for your "LOVE IN" although his refugee suggestions worry me... :?

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Postby zan » Tue May 08, 2007 1:07 am

LENA wrote:
karma wrote:
LENA wrote:
karma wrote: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Dare u eat dolmades , mousakka , kokoretsi, kadaifi from now on..
Dare u dance tsiftetelli...


karma his problem is that he eat those stuff he is not eating shieftalies...he is from Greece and he want all of us to be Greek as well...he doesnt respect our nationality!!!


shieftalies has anything to do with sheftali?? sheftali means peach in turkish?? can u check it for me??


Sorry Karma...I have no idea...why they name them like that but...NO sieftalies has nothing to do with peaches



I think Lena is talking about a Seftali Kebab. My favourite.Mmmmmm
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