The Best Cyprus Community

Skip to content


Turkish Military Draft

Feel free to talk about anything that you want.

Turkish Military Draft

Postby Kokona » Sun Jan 23, 2005 2:06 am

I thought this was interesting..

My boyfriend has a Turkish friend here in the US who just received a letter from Turkey demanding him to be drafted into the Turkish military. (Apparently he is a US citizen and born here but his father signed him up for military duties as a child.) So he calls them up and refuses to join..after all, he's been living in the US all his life and signing up wasn't his choice. He asks if there's any way to refuse the draft and the Turkish official says "yes", only if he's a US citizen (which he is). So he figured that would be the end of it but the official continues to say that he has been banned from Turkey!! He basically lost the right to visit, live in, start a company, etc in his homeland!!

Can you imagine being "black listed" in your homeland??

I thought this was so odd. Why is Turkey drafting people? Why are they seeking people outside of Turkey? Does this have anything to do with Cyprus or Greece and the many air/sea violations recently? Are they provoking war?

Anyone want to clear this up for me?

Thanks,
Kokona
Kokona
New Member
New Member
 
Posts: 27
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 1:05 am
Location: NY

Postby insan » Sun Jan 23, 2005 2:48 am

I thought this was interesting..

My boyfriend has a Turkish friend here in the US who just received a letter from Turkey demanding him to be drafted into the Turkish military.


Hi Kokona

Military service is a civic duty for every male 18 y.o or older, who are citizens of Republic of Turkey; including the males that have dual or more nationalities.


(Apparently he is a US citizen and born here but his father signed him up for military duties as a child.)


It seems he has dual citizenship. Both Turkish and US.


So he calls them up and refuses to join..after all, he's been living in the US all his life and signing up wasn't his choice. He asks if there's any way to refuse the draft and the Turkish official says "yes", only if he's a US citizen (which he is).


But he also has citizenship of Turkey. In this case he could do his national service for a short term of one month, much easier than the normal military service; by paying a certain amount of money that the relevant laws order.

So he figured that would be the end of it but the official continues to say that he has been banned from Turkey!! He basically lost the right to visit, live in, start a company, etc in his homeland!!


The officials are not uthorised to ban anyone for any reason. The officials can only write a report about him that he is a draft-resister and send the report to the relevant government office for investigation.


I thought this was so odd. Why is Turkey drafting people?Why are they seeking people outside of Turkey?


This is a matter of law regarding the military service of Turkish citizens. There's nothing to do with being outside or inside of Turkey.

Does this have anything to do with Cyprus or Greece and the many air/sea violations recently? Are they provoking war?



Apparently no.

Anyone want to clear this up for me?

Thanks,
Kokona


Np. Cheers :D


Ps: If he wishes to come Turkey and visit, live in, start a company, etc in his homeland which he refuses to do one of his civic duties; he should declare of his alienage. After he has declared his alienage of Turkish citizenship and approved by the relevant court of Turkey; he will be free to visit, live in, start a company, etc in his homeland as every foreigner is able to do.
User avatar
insan
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 9037
Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2003 11:33 pm
Location: Somewhere in ur network. ;]

Postby Kokona » Sat Jan 29, 2005 2:09 am

Thanks for clearing that up for me, Insan.... but I still think that's unfair...as someone with dual citizenship, maybe he should be allowed to have the choice to deny the draft. He's NEVER been to Turkey before and he hardly speaks the language!

I don't think he should have to declare himself an alien to visit his country if and when he does go to Turkey.

I guess the law's the law....


~Kokona~
Kokona
New Member
New Member
 
Posts: 27
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 1:05 am
Location: NY

Postby metecyp » Sat Jan 29, 2005 3:16 am

insan wrote:Ps: If he wishes to come Turkey and visit, live in, start a company, etc in his homeland which he refuses to do one of his civic duties; he should declare of his alienage. After he has declared his alienage of Turkish citizenship and approved by the relevant court of Turkey; he will be free to visit, live in, start a company, etc in his homeland as every foreigner is able to do.

Hi insan, how do you know all this information? Just curious.
User avatar
metecyp
Regular Contributor
Regular Contributor
 
Posts: 1154
Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2004 4:53 pm
Location: Cyprus/USA

Postby insan » Sat Jan 29, 2005 4:07 am

Hi insan, how do you know all this information? Just curious.


Hi metecyp

I've been living in Istanbul for almost 18 years. During this time I've met, and spoke many people; including Rafet El Roman, Tarkan who had same or similar problems. In Istanbul, many adults who becomes of military age looks for ways to postpone or not to do their military service at all. Towards the final period of the higher education the military syndrome crops up among the students who don't want to do their military service. In those time periods the military service issue becomes one of the most popular issues the students talk about. There are so many Turks who use the universities in North in order to do their military service in Cyprus in a short term by paying a certain amount of money. :D


BTW, did you do your military service metecyp?
User avatar
insan
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 9037
Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2003 11:33 pm
Location: Somewhere in ur network. ;]

Postby metecyp » Sat Jan 29, 2005 4:45 am

insan wrote:BTW, did you do your military service metecyp?

No, I haven't. I'm planning on paying a certain amount of money and doing that 1-month military service. That will probably be in 2 years or so after I finish my Master's and work a little bit. Did you do your military service?
User avatar
metecyp
Regular Contributor
Regular Contributor
 
Posts: 1154
Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2004 4:53 pm
Location: Cyprus/USA

Postby insan » Sun Jan 30, 2005 1:32 am

Did you do your military service?


I did, metecyp.
User avatar
insan
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 9037
Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2003 11:33 pm
Location: Somewhere in ur network. ;]

Postby brother » Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:15 pm

So would i have to do it in turkey if i was to live there even though i am british born and citizen but parents tc.
User avatar
brother
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 4711
Joined: Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:30 pm
Location: Cyprus/U.K

Postby insan » Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:39 pm

So would i have to do it in turkey if i was to live there even though i am british born and citizen but parents tc.


TCs whether they have dual citizenship or not don't have to do their military service in Turkey; even legally they are not allowed to do their military service in Turkey. But if a TC has been born in Turkey from a Turkish father and live in Turkey as a registered Turkish citizen; his first nationality is Turkish even he has also had the TRNC citizenship.
User avatar
insan
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 9037
Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2003 11:33 pm
Location: Somewhere in ur network. ;]

Postby brother » Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:42 pm

So i would be alright, but what are the rules on staying in turkey for brits. as that is the catagory i would come under.
User avatar
brother
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 4711
Joined: Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:30 pm
Location: Cyprus/U.K

Next

Return to General Chat

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest