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Postby GorillaGal » Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:55 am

Sube from Bangladesh,
they can never hate you too much, they save most of that hate for Americans and Bush supporters.
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Postby miltiades » Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:00 am

GorillaGal , NO they don't , some do and I don't !!!
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Postby susanbunny » Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:46 am

Most bangladeshi or shr lankens appear to me slave labour here in Cyprus, I have wittenesed them being treated very badly, the pay they get is a pittance with only one day off a week...it is terrible that this goes on.
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Postby miltiades » Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:25 am

Have you ever been to either Bangladesh or Sri Lanka ?
You want to witness mistreatment of people and animals visit either of these countries , particularly Bangladesh. Sri Lanka has one of the highest literacy rates in the world with many professionals such as Doctors Accountants etc etc.Yet they still mistreat their "domestics " and I'm not talking about domestics performing tasks such as washing their masters feet but paying them pittance and having them work 7 days a week . Begging in both of these countries is widespread and discrimination on "caste " grounds perfectly normal. The poor are treated worst than animals and frowned upon just for being less fortunate. The Greeks of Greece were almost as bad , but I believe the Cypriots are well behind these nations . The criteria of measuring a nations' civility and compassion is not only the utmost respect of sanctity of life for both man and beast but the treatment that the well off dish out to the not so well off .
Bangladesh , as well as being one of the most corrupt nations , also has one of the world's largest number of "honor killings " and forgive me if I puke at such medieval practices .
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Postby miltiades » Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:31 am

Thousands of Women Killed for Family "Honor"
Hillary Mayell
for National Geographic News
February 12, 2002

Hundreds, if not thousands, of women are murdered by their families each year in the name of family "honor." It's difficult to get precise numbers on the phenomenon of honor killing; the murders frequently go unreported, the perpetrators unpunished, and the concept of family honor justifies the act in the eyes of some societies.

Most honor killings occur in countries where the concept of women as a vessel of the family reputation predominates, said Marsha Freemen, director of International Women's Rights Action Watch at the Hubert Humphrey Institute of Public Affairs at the University of Minnesota.

Reports submitted to the United Nations Commission on Human Rights show that honor killings have occurred in Bangladesh, Great Britain, Brazil, Ecuador, Egypt, India, Israel, Italy, Jordan, Pakistan, Morocco, Sweden, Turkey, and Uganda. In countries not submitting reports to the UN, the practice was condoned under the rule of the fundamentalist Taliban government in Afghanistan, and has been reported in Iraq and Iran.

But while honor killings have elicited considerable attention and outrage, human rights activists argue that they should be regarded as part of a much larger problem of violence against women.

In India, for example, more than 5,000 brides die annually because their dowries are considered insufficient, according to the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF). Crimes of passion, which are treated extremely leniently in Latin America, are the same thing with a different name, some rights advocates say.

"In countries where Islam is practiced, they're called honor killings, but dowry deaths and so-called crimes of passion have a similar dynamic in that the women are killed by male family members and the crimes are perceived as excusable or understandable," said Widney Brown, advocacy director for Human Rights Watch.

The practice, she said, "goes across cultures and across religions."

Complicity by other women in the family and the community strengthens the concept of women as property and the perception that violence against family members is a family and not a judicial issue.

"Females in the family—mothers, mothers-in-law, sisters, and cousins—frequently support the attacks. It's a community mentality," said Zaynab Nawaz, a program assistant for women's human rights at Amnesty International.

I THINK THE ABOVE TAKEN FROM A SIMPLE SEARCH ON GOOGLE PUTS THINKS INTO PERSPECTIVE.
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Postby Niki » Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:44 am

That is horrific. We all don't realise how lucky we are to be born into more civilised cultures.
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Postby karma » Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:03 am

Niki2410 wrote:That is horrific. We all don't realise how lucky we are to be born into more civilised cultures.


I wish Afghans and Iraqis would be able to say the same..
Civilised cultures??? R u kidding??
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Postby miltiades » Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:00 pm

karma wrote:
Niki2410 wrote:That is horrific. We all don't realise how lucky we are to be born into more civilised cultures.


I wish Afghans and Iraqis would be able to say the same..
Civilised cultures??? R u kidding??


Karma , my dear young innocent child. In the West we do not kill our women folk if they became the victims of rape , or if they fancied a bit because we do not consider the woman's' genital area to have anything whatsoever to do with honor.What we consider honorable behaviour is tolerance , compassion , forgiveness, love of life and respect of the sanctity of life , caring for the sick and the old and looking after our animals. Unlike the Iraqis and Afghans that you mentioned we do not believe that massacring innocents gives us an automatic entry to heavens. These two nations that you mentioned are still living in the 4th century , and we have reached the 21st in case you haven't noticed.
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Postby free_cyprus » Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:25 pm

Sotos
why do you have to defend cyprus in this way why dont you except that there are crooks criminals rapist and bad people in cyprus like there is all over the world not just cyprus......................
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Postby Niki » Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:31 pm

karma wrote:
Niki2410 wrote:That is horrific. We all don't realise how lucky we are to be born into more civilised cultures.


I wish Afghans and Iraqis would be able to say the same..
Civilised cultures??? R u kidding??


Come off your high horse Karma. This atrocity is carried out by the people on members of their own family. The whole culture is geared towards the abuse of women and the lower classes.

The people of the UK never wanted war with Iraq and are mostly opposed to it. They are also very tolerant of other cultures and although there is some class division it is nothing in comparison. Very different.

The UK is far from perfect but I do get sick of being tarnished with the decisions made by a very unpopular government.
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