Cyprus The kind of evidence needed to prove a genocide

free_cyprus · lecturer

since we are on the subject of genecide can iask a simple question............ how many people did the greek and turkish empires kill in their conquest of those empires

Nikephoros · advanced member

I can answer easily: irrelevant to the present discussion.

THUS IGNORED.

free_cyprus · lecturer

Nikephoros
einstein said everything in the world is relevent.........................and i say the question put forth here is relevent to

Nikephoros · advanced member

Do you have mental problems?

Genocide is a specific term to refer to specific events, coined for a specific purporse. Since Turks distort this word and do not know what it means, I have posted some of the serious research on the Armenian genocide. So next time a Turkish Cypriot opens their mouth and misuses the term to promote their disrespect for Greeks they can be confronted for what kind of compelling evidence exists for the genocide most Turks try to deny. Versus the fake genocides Turks try to concoct to promote their own agenda on Cyprus.

T_C · lecturer

Listen Dumb Ass!

TC's claim there was an attepted genocide and if you had a look in the thread I opened just for you there is a picture of our PRESIDENT sitting as audience to people shooting Turkish Cypriots and blessing a grenade as if it were holy water. Evil or Very Mad

Are you so stupid that you cannot put 2 and 2 together?

Funny you mentioned the Armenians because only the other day I was arguing with an Armenian in another forum where he pointed out to me that both Turkey and RoC are in the same predicament in the fact that they are both trying to deny their past actions for the very same reasons! Instead they try to play it down as "intercommunal violence" or "civil war". Rolling Eyes

I cannot believe that I actually stuck up for Turkey on the Armenian case as I now believe that they are most probably guilty just like the Greek Cypriot government of the time... Evil or Very Mad

Nikephoros · advanced member

T_C · lecturer

Nikephoros · advanced member

Really?

http://www.yevrobatsi.org/st/item.php?r=10&id=2801
A Shameful Campaign
by Taner Akçam

... "At the invitation of the McGill University Faculty of Law and Concordia University, I flew from Minneapolis to Montreal on Friday, February 16, to lecture on A Shameful Act. As the Northwest Airlines jet touched down at Trudeau International Airport about 11:00 a.m., I assumed I had plenty of time to get to campus for the 5:00 p.m. event. Nearly four hours later, I was still at the airport, detained without any explanation."

... "About 3:30 p.m. the officer returned with a special one-week visa. Upon my insistence that I had a right to know exactly why I had been detained, he showed me a sheet of paper with my photograph on top and a short block of text, in English, below.
I recognized the page at once. The photo was a still from the 2005 documentary Armenian Genocide: 90 Years Later, a co-production of the University of Minnesota Center for Holocaust and Genocide Studies and Twin Cities Public Television. A series of outtakes from the film, originally posted on the CHGS Web site, could be found on the popular Internet video site, YouTube, and elsewhere in cyberspace. The still photo and the text beneath it comprised my biography in the English-language edition of Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia which anyone in the world can modify at any time. For the last year—most recently on Christmas Eve, 2006—my Wikipedia biography had been persistently vandalized by anonymous “contributors” intent on labeling me as a terrorist. The same allegations had been repeatedly scrawled, like gangland graffiti, as “customer reviews” of A Shameful Act and my other books at Amazon.com." ...

"The well meaning American customs official could hardly have known the extent of the problem. Wikipedia and Amazon are but two examples. Allegations against me, posted mainly by the Assembly of American Turkish Associations (ATAA), Turkish Forum, and Tall Armenian Tale, have been copy-pasted and recycled throughout innumerable Web sites and e-groups ever since I arrived in America. By now, for example, my name in close proximity to the English word “terrorist” turns up in well over ten thousand Web pages."

"The first salvo in this campaign came in response to the English translation of my essay, “The Genocide of the Armenians and the Silence of the Turks.” In a sensational March 19, 2001, commentary from the ATAA Turkish Times (“From Terrorism to Armenian Propagandist: The Taner Akçam Story”), I was introduced to Turkish-Americans as a mastermind of terrorist violence, including the assassinations of American and NATO military personnel. Posted at the ATAA Web site in April 2001 and circulated via Turkish Forum in December 2001 and June 2003—my protests notwithstanding—“The Taner Akçam Story” ended up by March 2004 at Tall Armenian Tale next to a photo of a PKK member, which was captioned as “a younger Taner Akçam, from PKK.org.” Three years later, the photo has been updated, but Artun’s commentary remains, a frequently cited resource for copy-pasters." ...

So basically Turks do not just lie about Greeks. They also lie about their few dissidents that do not parrot their official state history.

Nikephoros · advanced member

To my horror I just checked the Tony Angastiniotis answers to Cyprus Forum thread and he says he is working on a book!

So a small handful of Armenian diaspora historians have changed the historical discourse for good. But look at Greek Cypriots, there are no real good English accounts using compelling evidence to debunk the Turkish and Turkish Cypriot defaming of history. Instead Greek Cypriots have men like Angastiniotis, historical ignorants to lend crediblity to the Turkish defamation campaigns regarding the events surrounding the Turkish invasion of Cyprus.

Has Hellenism fallen so badly on Cyprus?