Political Equality? This forum is the model for a solution!
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| Alexandros Lordos |
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This may sound like a silly waste of time, but I was checking out the list of top posters in this forum (to do this, go to "memberlist" from the options above, and then select "sort by total posts, descending order"), and I found out that out of the twenty top posters, ten are GC and ten are TC ... 
I am not sure what the "moral of the story" is, so if anyone has any interpretations of this interesting phenomenon ... shoot!  |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:58 pm |
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| metecyp |
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I am not sure what the "moral of the story" is, so if anyone has any interpretations of this interesting phenomenon ... shoot! Very Happy
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Political equality even in Cyprus Forum  j/k. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:11 pm |
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| Bananiot |
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| This surely will get Piratis all worked up! Democratically, it should be 14-6 in favour of the GC, fifty-fifty is not acceptable, is it Piratis? |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:44 pm |
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| Piratis |
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What would upset Piratis is if we said that all TCs together had the right of 100 post per day, and all GCs together the right for another 100 posts.
However, this forum is democratic, and nobodies post are limited based on his race.
To translate the forum into Cyprus where the population is not 50%-50% but 82%-18%, imagine if out of the 20 members 4 were TCs and 16GCs, and the TCs demanded that each GC should be allowed to post only one fifth the amount of posts of each TC so the number of posts (power) would be 50%-50% between GCs and TCs.
Would you consider this fair, especially when we were discussing matters like "Tsunami in Asia" etc?
(this is to point that political equality between communities could be OK on some specific matters, but not on everything) |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:18 pm |
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| metecyp |
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| Piratis wrote: |
(this is to point that political equality between communities could be OK on some specific matters, but not on everything)
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I have no problem with this approach. I just want political equality for TCs in cases like GCs wanting to declare Enosis or some other situation that is completely against TC wishes. I don't care about the political equality in daily matters because I believe that GCs and TCs think alike in most matters. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:23 pm |
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| boulio |
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I have no problem with this approach. I just want political equality for TCs in cases like GCs wanting to declare Enosis
why would they want enosis with greece,as a greek i think that some islands would rather have enosis with cyprus(due to its standard of living,tourism,shipping sector). 
the enosis idea is completly dead,i gurantee you
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| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:24 pm |
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| Alexandros Lordos |
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| metecyp wrote: |
| Piratis wrote: |
(this is to point that political equality between communities could be OK on some specific matters, but not on everything)
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I have no problem with this approach. I just want political equality for TCs in cases like GCs wanting to declare Enosis or some other situation that is completely against TC wishes. I don't care about the political equality in daily matters because I believe that GCs and TCs think alike in most matters. |
Heu guys, this is a "joke" thread, take it easy ...  |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:26 pm |
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| Alexandros Lordos |
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| Piratis wrote: |
What would upset Piratis is if we said that all TCs together had the right of 100 post per day, and all GCs together the right for another 100 posts.
However, this forum is democratic, and nobodies post are limited based on his race.
To translate the forum into Cyprus where the population is not 50%-50% but 82%-18%, imagine if out of the 20 members 4 were TCs and 16GCs, and the TCs demanded that each GC should be allowed to post only one fifth the amount of posts of each TC so the number of posts (power) would be 50%-50% between GCs and TCs.
Would you consider this fair?
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Piratis, you are one of a kind ... |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 1:09 am |
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| Piratis |
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| I have no problem with this approach. I just want political equality for TCs in cases like GCs wanting to declare Enosis or some other situation that is completely against TC wishes. I don't care about the political equality in daily matters because I believe that GCs and TCs think alike in most matters. |
Then we agree, because my objection is if TCs have a blocking power on everything. If its on specific matters like the example you gave, then I have no problem at all.
E.g. We could agree that TCs could have a blocking power:
When Cyprus is to join an International organization (e.g. NATO)
On changes to the constitution
On anything that has to do with religion, culture and language
On anything that has to do with production and trade of products X,Y,Z (X Y, Z being products that are produced mainly by TCs)
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| Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 1:55 am |
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| magikthrill |
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OK since this thread has no specific topic I'd like to post something relevant to everybody's criticism of Piratis.
Last semester I took a class on Native North Americans and my professor mentioned something very interesting about the civil rights movement in america (which was mostly about the civil rights of black people but also american indians).
He said that everytime somebody has an opinion that will probably not be accepted by their counterparts they are considered as extremists. So he brought the example of Martin Luther King who just basically demanded that all people be treated equally. However after MLK, came different organizations like the Black Panthers who just sought to violent acts against white people and thats when people started listening to MLK and understood that what he requested was not irrational.
LIkewise in this forum, people like to label Piratis as an extremist because he claims that political equality is not fair and results in civilian inequality (something which he has justified with arguments in many many many posts).
So my question is: If somebody came along and claimed somethign that is actually extremist such as all TCs must die, would people then realize that Piratis comments are not that illogical?
Did I make sense to anyone  |
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