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American Influencing of Annan

Postby eracles » Sat Feb 07, 2004 10:11 pm

How much influence can the US have on what Annan decides to do (ie when filling in the gaps)? I think US and Turkey are very much together at the moment on the Cyprus issue. Bush will soon be conveying Turkey's concerns about the plan to Annan. Annan will fill in the gaps but to what extent could these 'gaps' become pre-planned special favours for Turkey due to US influence of Annan?

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Postby PEACE » Sat Feb 14, 2004 7:14 pm

I think u got ur answer after 13 February Negotations :wink:
Turkish and Greek Cypriot leaders will try to be agreed. if they can't Greece and Turkey will joing and they will try to solve the problem! If this still fails than Annan will fill the points that sides couldn't be agreed! :wink: And referandum lefts... :D
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Postby eracles » Thu Apr 01, 2004 5:52 pm

Well from seeing how Annan has filled in the gaps....i have now lost faith in the UN. I have lost faith in the EU. I never had faith in US and UK! I feel ill. The Greek Cypriots are being rail roaded in a way I couldn't imagine :cry: Also I feel Greece has failed GC's again.
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Postby Piratis » Thu Apr 01, 2004 8:37 pm

And what else did you expect? The UN are a puppet in the hands of the US since the end of the cold war. What happened in Iraq proves this.
US, UK, Israel and Turkey are the "Axis of Evil" and should be expected that they will support each other.
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Postby PEACE » Fri Apr 02, 2004 3:36 pm

Well from seeing how Annan has filled in the gaps....i have now lost faith in the UN. I have lost faith in the EU.


Oh pls don't say like that ! Look to the plan carefully! In which subjects u lost more and in which subjects you gained more...
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Postby michalis5354 » Fri Apr 02, 2004 6:09 pm

The UN has not been influenced by US nor Turkey.

UN just propose a plan that would satisfy both sides in Cyprus. For all those years what plan did either side propose to unite the island? NOTHING ! Just expectig the plan to be come from the sky maybe!

Glad USA UN are taking initiatives to solve our problems that we had created!

JUST imagine what would happened IF UN was not there!

UN has contributed greatly to Cyprus issue for 40 years now !

There is only one hope for Cyprus , When GCs and TCs sees far to the future and forget the past .
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Postby michalis5354 » Fri Apr 02, 2004 6:36 pm

Actually The UN and the secretary General koffi Anan has done a great Job in the last years! No one before has produced a plan the could satisfy to that extent so closely the expectations of both sides! I greatly appreciate the work that UN has put in all these years !

It seems that the leaders in both sides are incapable of explaining to their people the provisions of the UN plan , and instead are fully occupied by short policies that misguide people .

I can only predict that The 6th version of any plan that the UN will propose in the future will be even much worse than the 5th plan , SO instead of blaming the UN or USA , just think more rationally and take a decision that will change your future. Stop thinking that Cyprus is the Centre and the focus of the whole world !
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Postby Piratis » Fri Apr 02, 2004 6:56 pm

No one before has produced a plan the could satisfy to that extent so closely the expectations of both sides


What sides are you talking about? Turks and Americans? Because if you are talking about G/C then maybe you haven't seen the latest polls that show a 90% no vote.
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Postby michalis5354 » Sun Apr 04, 2004 5:26 pm

I could not expect any UN plan to satisfy 100% of the claims of each side as I already know the extreme claims of each side . On this perspective we can arrive at a settlement that takes in to consideration most of the concerns of each side .

I dont say that I agree with all provisions of the plan like the military presence of Turkey and Greece for ever , but I think that there is a provisions which allows these forces to be withdrawn upon mutual agreement and consideration in every 5 years time! If we take into consideration all the other benefits of a settlements ALL these restrictions of the plan look minor to me ! And personally I would not mind so much since the other alternative which I have in front of me is Uncertainty which is even worst!

I dont think the UN plan benefit USA or Turkey . The Turkishcypriots that are going to participate in the federal government are also Cypriots and not Turks. So where is the problem? How could USA benefit for a settlement? Turkey can enter the EU without a settlement in Cyprus If Greekcypriots reject the plan , This has been very cleared lately !
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