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Postby akiner » Sun Sep 11, 2005 7:04 pm

bg_turk,
You would have sounded a bit more persuading if the recent conference in Istanbul on the armenian issues wasnt postponed indefintely. Where exactly can I discuss the armenian massacres in Turkey, without being called a traitor by people like you?


let me give u some information about what discuss is;
discuss-v 1: to consider or examine in speech or writing; "The article covered all the different aspects of this question"; "The class discussed Dante's `Inferno'" [syn: discourse, talk about] 2: speak with others about (something); talk (something) over in detail; have a discussion; "We discussed our household budget" [syn: hash out, talk over]-

So if you invite speechers from only oneside to discuss you can only create a conlusion text that covers a monolog message, then how dare you try to support that kinda action in turkey?!

Why do not u concentrate your efforts to make conference with a subject that "Liberated Turkish State in Some Parts of Bulgaria" at an university in Sofia as a humanbeing then lets watch the responses from BG government and ppl when participaters of your conference only from seperatist side
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Postby bg_turk » Sun Sep 11, 2005 7:36 pm

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Are you saying that the conference in Isanbul was cancelled because the people had a seperaist agenda? Is it seperatist to discuss the killing of innocent armenians (and innocent turks for that matter), or is it inconvenient because it reveals uncomfortable truths that the turkish nationalists cannot swallow?

Of course you cannot discuss "liberation" of the turks in Bulgaria, this would mean seperatism, in the same way you cannot discuss the "liberation" of kurds in Turkey. But in Bulgaria, we can discuss the crimes committed by the Bulgarian state against us. Maybe you know about the Revival Process when our names were changed. There has been a movie about it, made by a Bulgarian, there are also monuments in the name of the turkish victimss of the bulgarian communist regime, the previous Bulgarian president officially apologized for it to the turkish refugees in Turkey that fled Bulgaria, alll of whom had been allowed to reclaim their BG citizenship. In Bulgari there are extremists and nationalists too, but the critical difference is that the state does not endorse them, or at least they do not have as much influence as those in Turkey.
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Postby akiner » Sun Sep 11, 2005 7:51 pm

akiner,

Are you saying that the conference in Isanbul was cancelled because the people had a seperaist agenda? Is it seperatist to discuss the killing of innocent armenians (and innocent turks for that matter), or is it inconvenient because it reveals uncomfortable truths that the turkish nationalists cannot swallow?

Of course you cannot discuss "liberation" of the turks in Bulgaria, this would mean seperatism, in the same way you cannot discuss the "liberation" of kurds in Turkey. But in Bulgaria, we can discuss the crimes committed by the Bulgarian state against us. Maybe you know about the Revival Process when our names were changed. There has been a movie about it, made by a Bulgarian, there are also monuments in the name of the turkish victimss of the bulgarian communist regime, the previous Bulgarian president officially apologized for it to the turkish refugees in Turkey that fled Bulgaria, alll of whom had been allowed to reclaim their BG citizenship. In Bulgari there are extremists and nationalists too, but the critical difference is that the state does not endorse them, or at least they do not have as much influence as those in Turkey.


again a pointless answer from u, u can discuss any think in turkey if u try to apply debating rule on your conference not a monologe-to provoke her ppl-,it seems to me u have some problems to understand what u read and i am guessing that is why u asking same questions which i've already answered my previous posts in different forms
maybe that short sentece is easy for someone like u to understand what happend, conference was canceled because it was a monolog

So are y supporting a monolog while you are hiding the wall of humanrights?
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Postby bg_turk » Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:32 pm

akiner wrote:So are y supporting a monolog while you are hiding the wall of humanrights?


No, I dont support a monologue, we have been listening to monologues from the Turkish and Armenian side all this time with nobody willing to listen to the other side. But I don't think the conference would have been a monolog, I think it would have given the floor to both sides, in fact mostly to the Turkish side (correct me if I am wrong, but it would have included mostly turkish professors, wouldn't it). It would have been an excellent opportunity for an honest discussion, but if honest discussions seem provoking to you, that is another problem.
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Postby aoxk61 » Sun Sep 11, 2005 11:59 pm

bg_turk wrote:aoxk61,

If you are just a teenager in London, "how the fuck would" you know anything about the armenian massacres then? Do you really care about armenians, or do you do this from your desire to continously discredit Turkey, based on your anti-turkish agenda and racism?


er hello, there are armenians in london too, its not taken over by just greeks and turks u know.
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Postby akiner » Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:53 am

No, I dont support a monologue.....It would have been an excellent opportunity for an honest discussion, but if honest discussions seem provoking to you, that is another problem.


You dont support monologs whaow congs...
and u belive a monolog would be the honest discussion(lmao) on
solving that issue...
So u must think the conclusion decleration of this conference could be such objective as there were some ppl too who look on issue from otherside of window??

On the other hand last post from u shows your lack of knowledge on basic politic rules,
If u make that kinda one-sided conferense on your one of the most important universities, The result as conclusion declaretion reflects one-sided views and could be recognized as academic study or scientific proof...

Why does Turkey give this one-sided study as a trump to Armenians, How could she defend this argument when it will be showed up on negotiations between states?!
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Postby bg_turk » Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:00 am

akiner,

What is a scientific discussion?

Do you see the difference between a scientific and politicl discussion?

If politicians can interfere in the work of an independent university, are the discussions really objective and scientific?

Science is about seeking the truth, politics is about manipulating the truth. Real science obeys no political rules!
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Postby YeReVaN » Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:35 pm

2fan wrote:
YeReVaN wrote:Obviously Turkey is not doing enough to use that to your advantage. If it was sooooooo important, Turkey would be much more powerfull than it is today. It's not EU who is begging Turkey to join, it's Turkey who is begging to join the EU.


Yerevan, You armenian piece of shit. I have been sitting here and reading your vile posts and I am sick of them. FUCK YOU, FUCK YOUR IDEOLOGY and most of all FUCK YOUR RACE. You are nothing but a bunch of fucking liars coming on this forum which does not concern you. This is about Cyprus. Go find a fucking armenian forum. SENIN GOTUNU SIKSINLER OROSPU COCUGU. FUCK YOUR BULLSHIT DIASPORA THEY WILL GET NOTHING FROM THE TURKS. YOU BETRAYED US AND YOU WANT RIGHT OF RETURN? FUUUUUUUCCKKKKKK YOUUUUU. AMINA SOKTUMUN OROSPU COCUGU. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. BITCH.



Listen to me you pathetic, dirty creature. I have just read your post because I was fucking the dirty whore that you call your mom. YOU FUCKIN PEACE OF SHIT. I WILL CUM ON YOU MOM'S LIPS AND MAKE YOUR BROTHER CLEAN IT OFF WITH HIS MOUTH, YOU DIRTY TATAR-MONGOL ANIMALS. WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU TO TELL ME WHERE I CAN POST AND WHERE I CAN'T. YOU ARE TOO SMALL OF A CREATURE FOR ME. YOU AND MOST OF YOUR BARBARIC RACE ARE A DISCRACE TO A HUMAN RACE. FUCKIN SCUMS OF THE EARTH. NOW SHUT YOUR FUCKIN MOUTH AND GO SUCK YOUR DAD'S DICK, YOU DICKFACE.
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Postby akiner » Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:41 am

bg_turk,
do you think that :
akiner,

What is a scientific discussion?

Do you see the difference between a scientific and politicl discussion?

If politicians can interfere in the work of an independent university, are the discussions really objective and scientific?

Science is about seeking the truth, politics is about manipulating the truth. Real science obeys no political rules!


.... is a reply for my previous post, then well i have nothing to say to u


yarevan,
once upon the time akiner wrote
Anyone in this forum, who claims that there was a genocide could post here pls the coordinates of massgraves of that 1.5mil deadbodies If s/he doesnt believe these bodies flied to sky and disappered immediatly....
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Postby YeReVaN » Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:13 am

So if I could not post coordinates of massgraves of that 1.5mil deadbodies , then there was no Armenian Genocide?
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