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[metecyp]

The point is that you want us to accept to live in a country without democracy and with exceptions to human rights.

Whatever, I'm not wasting my time anymore. You want us to live in a country like a minority so you can make all the decisions on your own, under the excuse of full democracy like you've been doing since 1963. You'll wait forever my friend, don't waste your time.

[Guest]

you are not a minority?

Go get a lesson about democracy. Beign a Turk I think you do not understand these kind of things very well.

You'll wait forever my friend, don't waste your time.

What goes arround, comes around

[metecyp]

you are not a minority?

Yes, T/C community is minority in terms of population. But T/C community is NOT minority in political structure of Cyprus, 1960 agreements state that, so it seems like you even have trouble accepting Republic of Cyprus, let alone Annan Plan.

You might not like political equality of T/Cs, and you might hope for "full democracy" as you call it. But it's never going to happen, not in this world structure.

Beign a Turk I think you do not understand these kind of things very well.

You just proved how racist you can be and then you wonder why T/Cs might want extra security from racists minds like you.

[PEACE]

Dear Greek Cypriot and metecyp ! We can't build trust and friendship bridges like this! Please be polite to each other !

Greek Cypriot ! Please carefully select your words! May be you didn't wanted to mean that but we can understand another meaning from your words!

[eracles]

I agree with Peace. I can't stand the level of discussion on usenet and hoped/hope this place would be better in that we can have reasoned debate without resorting to mud slinging

And Aris...if you're still here, please force users to login to post messages - it's difficult to tell who's saying what when the author is Guest! I've been caught out a few times myself.

Thanks
Eracles

[metecyp]

You can't build trust between two parties if one party regards the other party's culture and identity as signs of stupidity! I'm sorry but I'm not going to let anyone call me stupid because of my identity.

Mr. Greek Cypriot is using "democracy" as a cover-up for what's beneath his subconcious, i.e. ignore and dominate the minority. If he was so fond of democracy as he claims to be, he would object to the fact that his so called bicommunal Republic of Cyprus has not been bicommunal since 1963. He would support full participation of T/Cs in Republic of Cyprus.

On the contrary, he doesn't even accept the privileges given in Republic of Cyprus to T/Cs, this is evident from his posts.

[Greek Cypriot]

I am not using democracy to cover anything. I am just a citizen that can not stand it when other citizens are given "special privileges".
Everybody should be equal.

And this thing that you tell me that in the future when trust will come you will accept even a signle "s" to change from the extreme, unfair, undemocratic privilages that the Anna plan gives you is A HUGE LIE that underestimates the inteligence of anybody that knows what Turks have done to us the last several centuries. You are trying to gain as much as possible and you will never give it up once we agree for it.
A proof for this? Now you consider a fact the privilages you gained in 1960 because we agreed for them. If we sign Annan plan, all those privilages will be considered a fact again for you and you will NEVER accept them to change.

You can take your lies elsewhere. For me friends are the ones who treat others as equals. Those that with lies and using the power of arms try to achive a deal that will ensure for them as many special privilages as possible are not my friends. They are my enemies.

[metecyp]

Talks are starting today, so I'm going to shut up now. Whatever we say doesn't matter at this point.
Like it or not, a new Cyprus will be formed on 1st of May, you can go ahead and vote no for the plan, but people like you won't stop the change.

[Greek Cypriot]

Who are "people like me"?
The ones that demand democracy and human rights and can not compromise for much less to serve the interests of Turkey and a small minority?
If these are the "people like me" that you mean, then I can ensure you that they are the great majority of Greek Cypriots. I don't say this, polls have shown it.
In the question would you accept the Annan plan as it is, more than 70% said no.
Now if Dectash accepts several of the things we will propose and the plan changes significantly then more people will vote for it. (however I doubt Dectash will accept anything less. He is like you - asking for more and more and more)

[metecyp]

"People like you" are people on both sides of Cyprus who have one idea of solution and who do not want to compromise their position whatsoever. These people prefer the current situation to any compromise. Note that I'm not distinguishing nationality here simply because even though these people seem different on two sides, they are actually reflection of each other, they feed on each other. Anyway.

I'm not like Denktas whatsoever. As I told you before, the views I present here are not totally mine. I'm presenting the overall opinion of T/C community hoping to exchange ideas with G/Cs and come to a conclusion. I'm much more progressive than you think.

Finally, you might think that voting no to Annan plan might save you, but a yes from T/C side and a no from G/C side will change the whole dynamics in Cyprus problem. In that case, Denktas' dream of recognition might become reality. So you might want to watch what you're wishing for.