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Postby Beth_Josephine » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:06 pm

Before anyone jumps on me, I was advised that EU members have the exact same right as a Cyp Citiz. to a certain extent but near enough everything is the same.

I’ve recently had to obtain advice for a solicitor, as I plan on getting married in Cyprus to a non-EU/non- Cyp. I was shocked by the information given; you see the normal route to applying for marriage is;

Go to the Mayor’s office and obtain 2 forms, declaring that you are both single and have never been married before (after Davit).

Fill these 2 forms out, and then go to the court with your passport, alien’s book, birth certificate, pink slip (if an asylum/refugee/non-EU/non-Cypriot). Obtain 2 stamps each for each form, these cost £2 Cyp pound for 2 stamps. Then go into the public sector, swear on the bible that you’ve never been married etc and have this signed.

Then take all your documents to Migration and apply for marriage there, they will ask for £20 Cyp pound each to have your application approved but this can take a good few months.

Now, after obtaining legal advice from a lawyer and the EU, I found out that what the Cypriot Government is doing, is actually illegal, that Migration are not sticking to a common law, also I found out that being an EU member and British Citizen, we have exactly the same right as a Cypriot national and we shouldn’t be issued with an alien book but an ID card Cypriots have.

We then went to a Municipal, after being advised this is quicker, just to see our options. I was advised that as an EU member, I am supposed to have a pink slip (wrong it’s a yellow one Mr) and that I do not have the same rights as a national Cypriot (also wrong, compared to what the EU have told me and the legal advice). Therefore I asked him to write down officially what he has said and signed, as I disagree with what he said and a Municipal shouldn’t be advising wrongly and got his superior to do so. This letter has now been sent to the EU and British Embassy. I feel that this is a brick wall I’ve come across and most probably many others, therefore it is only right that the certain authorities should be informed.

Has anyone else come across a sim. problem witht he Cyprus Government?

Sometimes I just want to bash them over the head, seems like half of them don't know about their own Government fullstop :twisted:
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Postby twinkle » Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:49 pm

You are luckly to get an official to put his advice in writing. Is the picture above ONE of the reasons you are marrying?????
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Postby Svetlana » Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:33 pm

The property laws for Cypriots and non-resident EU nationals are different too. Did someone tell you yprus was in the EU?

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Postby Beth_Josephine » Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:23 am

twinkle wrote:You are luckly to get an official to put his advice in writing. Is the picture above ONE of the reasons you are marrying?????


Think he was scared by the time I let go :shock:

We were planning our marriage before hand then our suprise came along, decided to hold it off for a few months, due to 'too much at once'. But now it seems a right time, so yes, ermmm and rrr'g about whether to do it before the birth or after.

As for the official letter, his superior called yesterday evening to apologise and wondered if I was still going through with handing it in!
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Postby eternal » Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:04 pm

hi Beth,

Have you heard anything with regards to your letter that you sent to the EU?
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Re: EU Member/Cyprus government & Marriage to an non-EU/

Postby MM_cy » Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:00 am

Hmmm

hi Beth

I have just completed the marrying part of the process and it was not as you suggest, but nearly as amusing !

1/ You must prove you are free to marry - Brits merely have to take their divorce papers / cerificate of death of ex partner to a local court and swear an affidavit saying they are free to marry or have never been married - taking along £2cy stamps, for each affidavit.

Other EU citizens and non-EU citizens ( not sure of the proces for a Cypriot !) must get a certificate from their embassy - again taking along proof of ID and other proof of freedom to marry. Russians charged us £17cy and a lot of psuhing and shoving at the tiny office where one must wait outside in the heat / cold /rain depending on the time of year.

2/ Then armed with proof of ID, freedom to marry, etc, one can get married within 15 days on paying £75cy or £160cy ( I think, if you wish to get maried in 48 hours !) to a local district office.

3/ Then on the day you must supply two witnesses.


Now the fun bit... if you want to live with your non EU citizen wife / husband, in Cyprus, you have to go to immigration , get form MEU1 and MEU7 if you intend to work, and swear an affidavit that you are married :-))))

One must visit a Muchtar ( isn't that Turkish) who you will have never met before who will say you live together !!! :-))

Then, you go back to immigration..armed with all the papers..and await one's yellow slip and id card .. not sure yet if wifey will get an ARC and pinkslip, but belief it should be a yellow slip as she is a dependent.

Did you GET married in Cyprus ?

photos to prove we had all the correct papers !

MM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/veta_mark/sets/72157600933826789/


Beth_Josephine wrote:Before anyone jumps on me, I was advised that EU members have the exact same right as a Cyp Citiz. to a certain extent but near enough everything is the same.

I’ve recently had to obtain advice for a solicitor, as I plan on getting married in Cyprus to a non-EU/non- Cyp. I was shocked by the information given; you see the normal route to applying for marriage is;

Go to the Mayor’s office and obtain 2 forms, declaring that you are both single and have never been married before (after Davit).

Fill these 2 forms out, and then go to the court with your passport, alien’s book, birth certificate, pink slip (if an asylum/refugee/non-EU/non-Cypriot). Obtain 2 stamps each for each form, these cost £2 Cyp pound for 2 stamps. Then go into the public sector, swear on the bible that you’ve never been married etc and have this signed.

Then take all your documents to Migration and apply for marriage there, they will ask for £20 Cyp pound each to have your application approved but this can take a good few months.

Now, after obtaining legal advice from a lawyer and the EU, I found out that what the Cypriot Government is doing, is actually illegal, that Migration are not sticking to a common law, also I found out that being an EU member and British Citizen, we have exactly the same right as a Cypriot national and we shouldn’t be issued with an alien book but an ID card Cypriots have.

We then went to a Municipal, after being advised this is quicker, just to see our options. I was advised that as an EU member, I am supposed to have a pink slip (wrong it’s a yellow one Mr) and that I do not have the same rights as a national Cypriot (also wrong, compared to what the EU have told me and the legal advice). Therefore I asked him to write down officially what he has said and signed, as I disagree with what he said and a Municipal shouldn’t be advising wrongly and got his superior to do so. This letter has now been sent to the EU and British Embassy. I feel that this is a brick wall I’ve come across and most probably many others, therefore it is only right that the certain authorities should be informed.

Has anyone else come across a sim. problem witht he Cyprus Government?

Sometimes I just want to bash them over the head, seems like half of them don't know about their own Government fullstop :twisted:
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Postby Sotos » Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:54 pm

Congrats Markymark :) Could you choose any day you wanted to get married or many days where full?
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Postby gary cooke » Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:33 pm

while u are applying to get married can you over come the problem of your non eu spouses visa running out?
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Postby gary cooke » Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:37 pm

does any body know how to get your non eu spouse an extended visa after three months?
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Postby Sotos » Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:10 pm

Did you ask immigration about this? Call to the central offices in Nicosia and explain to them your situation.
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