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Propose and discuss specific solutions to aspects of the Cyprus Problem

Postby 74LB » Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:40 am

denizaksulu wrote:Who will volunteer to translate the preceeding posts. Will Karma do us the honours. I am sure they would be very informative. If Piratis and SN are having a secret "affair" they ought to confine it to PMs.
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Yep, its times like this you wish you could read Greek
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Postby SN » Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:45 pm

1.Poios einai o orismos sou enos Ellina?

To oti milaw ellinika as poume kai oti eimai X.O?
Auto einai olo?
Kai ti simainei Ellinas stin teliki?

Sta dika sou matia eimai auto pou o laos sou leei Kalamaras....Alla xereis kati....epimenw oti einai apisteuto gia sena enas Ellinas(opws profanws ton orizeis esy) na ektoxeuei tetoies katigories enantion tis Elladas....De vlepeis poso thima tis ''Ellinikotitas'' sou eisai???

De vlepeis oti to na esternizesai oti eisai apoklistika Ellinas,anti gia Kyprios gigenis,apo monos sou katastrefeis kathe pithanotita na ziseis eirinika me tous ipoloipous Kiprious oi opoioi ehoun tourkiko background.

Apo monos sou diaireis tin idia sou tin Patrida.Kai eheis na euharistiseis gi auto monaha enan!!!!Tin Ellada....pou me tin apisteuti propaganda tis se ehei egklwvisei sto na pisteuei oti me kapoion magiko tropo i Ellada mporei pote na endiaferthei gia tin Kypro....

I Ellas tha endiaferthei mono gia tin Ellada.Opws exallou kai i Tourkia gia ton euato tis





2.Eimai Ellinas Kyprios, opos kapios allos einai Ellinas Kritikos i Ellinas Makedonas.

I patrida den dierite me to na ehoume Kyprious me diaforetika background. Afto simveni se olles tis hores tou kosmou.

Egw afto pou panta ipostirizw einai oti oloi oi polites tis kypriakis dimokratias prepi na ehoun akrivos ta idia dikaiomata kai ipohreosis anexartitos "background", thriskias, glossas ktl, kati pou kai pali simveni se oles tis kales dimokraties to kosmou.

To provlima stin kypro einai oti oi Tourko Kyprioi den theloun apla na einai isotimoi polites, all na mas gamisoun. Theloun ena megalo meros tis kyprou os apoklistika tourkiko, kai theloun to 50% tis exousias enw einai mono to 18% tou plithismou.

Den ehi kamia shesi oti eimai Ellinas. Kai me Armenio Kyprio na milisis ta idia tha sou pi.




3.Piratis wrote:
Eimai Ellinas Kyprios
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To mono provlima einai auto.Oxi oi Tourko-Kyprioi.

Afairese tin lexi Ellinas apo to Kyprios kai tote isws deis tin Kypro xana enwmeni.Mehri tote,meine kapou sti Leukwsia,Larnaka,Lemesso i Pafo.

Me auto to skeptiko,pio eukola tha dw egw Keryneia kai Ammohwsto para esy.


Me to diko sou skeptiko egw eimai Ellinas Makedonas.
Epi tis ousias eimai ena Ellinas politis apla.
Esy tha prepei na parameineis enas Kyprios politis apla...Giati me tetoio self-determination dineis patima sta Imperialistika Oneira pou i Ellas ehei gia esas....



TRANSLATION

1.What is your befinition of a Hellene?
The fact that i speak Greek or that i am a Chirstian Orhodox?
Is that All?
And what does being Greek means anyway?

In your eyes i am what your people call a Kalamaras(Greek-Cypriot eufimism of the population of mainland Greece)..But you know something?I insist that is it unbelivable in your mind a Greek(the way you define it) to speak about Greece the way i do.Can't you see the cost of your ''Greekness''?
Cant you see that by accepting that you are exclusively Greek instead of indigenous Cypriot,you yourself destroy every possibility to live in peace with the rest of your Cypriot compatriots that have a Turkish background?
On your own,you choose to divide your own country.For that you have to thank only one!!Greece!!!Greece with its terrible propaganda has persuaded you into believing that she will magically care about you or Cyprus....
Greece will only care about Greece.The same way Turkey care only about herself...


2.I am a Greek Cypriot,the same way one is a Greek Cretan or a Greek Macedonian.

My country cannot be divided by Cypriots that have different background.That happens in every country of the world.
What i always stand by is that all the citizens of the RoC must enjoy equal rights regardless of their background,language or religion,something which happens in all good democracies of the world.
The problem in Cyprus is that the Turkish-Cypriots want not only to be equal to as but to also fuck us.They want a big part of Cyprus as exclusively Turkish and they want 50% of the power while they only account for 18% of the population.
It is irrelevant that i am Greek.You will hear the same if you speak to an Armenian-Cypriot.


3.Piratis wrote.

I am Greek Cypriot

The only problem is that.Not the Turkish Cypriots.
Leave out the word Greek and stay with the word Cypriot and then maybe you will see in the future a united Cyprus.Until then stay somewhere in Larnaka,Lemmeso,Nicosia or Pafo.

With this kind of attitude it is gonna be easier for me to see Famagusta or Keryneia.
According to you i am a Greek Macedonian.
While in reality i am only a Greek citizen.
You should remain merely a Cypriot citizen.Bsc with this self-determination you are giving a right to Greece's Imperialistic Dreams.
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