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Where on Earth were Turks Spawned?

Postby Chimera » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:35 pm

Hello I am new to this forum.

Can someone enlighten me on where Turks originated from, back in the days before they invaded Asia Minor, Greece, Cyprus, Armenia etc etc etc.

I only ask because I know nothing. :lol:
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Postby RichardB » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:38 pm

What a fine first posting.... NOT
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Postby RichardB » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:40 pm

Oh just out of interest why is this in the Cyprus problem solution thread ??
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Re: Where on Earth were Turks Spawned?

Postby karma » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:44 pm

Chimera wrote:Hello I am new to this forum.

Can someone enlighten me on where Turks originated from, back in the days before they invaded Asia Minor, Greece, Cyprus, Armenia etc etc etc.

I only ask because I know nothing. :lol:


Central Asia, Mongolia.
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Postby raymanuva » Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:06 pm

The name "Turk" first appeared in history in the 6th century CE in Central Asia.[31][32] The Göktürks chose Ötüken, as a base and established khanates. The new state called the Göktürk Empire was founded at the foot of the Altai Mountains. Later they spread out and became an empire.

Throughout history, the Turks have established numerous states in various geographical regions on the continents of Asia, Europe and Africa. Turks brought their culture to the places to which they had migrated or invaded and were also affected by the existing cultures of these regions.

Anatolia, the landmass that is now Turkey, had been a cradle to a wide variety of civilizations and kingdoms in antiquity. Major civilizations that have settled in or invaded Anatolia include the Amazons, Arabs, Armenians, Assyrians, Celts, Cimmerians, Etruscans, Galatians, Goths,Hattians, Hittites, Ionians, Greeks, Lydians, Mongols, Pelasgians, Persians, Phrygians, Romans, Scythians, Trojans, Urartians, Byzantines, Seljuk Turks and Ottoman Turks

The Oğuz were the main Turkic people who moved into Anatolia after 1072 CE. Small bands of Turks began their migration following the victory of the Seljuks, led by Alp Arslan, against the Byzantines at the Battle of Manzikert and this paved the way for Turkish dominance in Anatolia. This also marked the beginning of the decline of the Byzantine empire. In the centuries after Manzikert, the relatively small number of Turkic immigrants began to assimilate local populations as their numbers grew. Anatolia was an ethnic mosaic, a region with a wide variety of peoples, but dominated by the Anatolians and other prominent regional groups.

Over time, as word spread regarding the victory of the Turks in Anatolia, more Turkic ghazis arrived from the Caucasus, Persia and Central Asia. These groups in turn merged with the local inhabitants as a slow process of conversion to Islam took place, thanks in large measure to the efforts of the sufis, that helped to bolster the Turkish-speaking population. Many Sufi orders sprang up and quickly became very popular by means of the numerous Sufi lodges throughout the region. Many people were attracted to this form of Islam (which incorporated local customs and rites) and as a result many people converted to the faith. Adoption of the Turkish language, culture and customs often followed conversion to Islam.

It is to be noted that the Ottoman Empire was erected by the Oghuz Turk ethicity in the beginning based at Söğüt, west region of Turkey. But there were many non-Turkic speaking Muslims in the Ottoman Empire particularly in areas outside the core Anatolian and southern Balkan regions. Following the Balkan Wars and the Russian conquest of the Caucasus and annexation of Crimea, many Turkic speaking Muslims in the North Caucasus, Balkans and Crimea emigrated to the territory of present day Turkey. After the fall of the Ottoman Empire and formation of the Republic of Turkey, these various cultures and languages melded into one supra identity and culture. Therefore modern Turks constitute a melting pot of all peoples in the Ottoman Empire.

By the late 19th century, Turks were relatively evenly spread throughout Europe and the Balkans. But territorial losses in the Balkans sparked a large scale exodus from that region. This was finalized by a population exchange between Greece and Turkey in the aftermath of World War One involving the transfer of a substantial number of ethnic Greeks in Turkey to Greece and vice versa, ethnic Turks in Greece to Turkey.

These migrations and later populations movements would continue to impact the modern Turkish people as the rise of the Ottoman Empire made Turkey into a world power and a focal point for a wide variety of peoples.

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Postby Chimera » Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:09 pm

Thanks Karma

What are they doing so far from home and what was it about their newly acquired "homelands" they did not like, that they had to modify them so much?

I am only here to help. :lol:
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Postby karma » Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:14 pm

Chimera wrote:Thanks Karma

What are they doing so far from home and what was it about their newly acquired "homelands" they did not like, that they had to modify them so much?

I am only here to help. :lol:


They are doing the same wht anglo-saxons r doing in whole continent of America..
Their homeland had no water anymore so they had to move..it wasnt for the oil for ur info..
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Postby iceman » Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:17 pm

we have a new joker onboard.. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Kikapu » Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:22 pm

They were "spawned" up stream at the "Turk River". :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Chimera » Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:22 pm

I see, tit for tat. 8)

Does a UNIFIED Cyprus not hold enough water for the roaming Mongolians then?

If we can identfy the cause we can find the solution. :lol:
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