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Postby zan » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:12 pm

Piratis wrote:Cypriots have been enslaved and oppressed by many foreigners (including the Turks) for centuries. Against all odds we have managed to survive and retain our identity. Our freedom and the right to determine democratically the destiny of our own island is not "ridiculous" as some of our former rulers have claimed and continue to unfortunately claim. We will continue to fight until our island will finally be liberated.

I don't hate any people because of their race. I hate only those who show disrespect to me and my rights, regardless of where they come from.

Who hate everything and anything Greek, are those who are trying to Turkify part of our island by ethnically cleansing the real Cypriots and replacing them with Turks, changing the names of our towns and villages, and trying to destroy our historical heritage.


I think we can take this as a confession don't you. First he claims he is a Cypriot and then he says it is a Greek Island...Which is it to be???Birkibrisli is dying to know :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Piratis » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:16 pm

First he claims he is a Cypriot and then he says it is a Greek Island...Which is it to be?


First he claims he is a Londoner and then he claims it is a UK territory. Which is to be?

The answer to both questions is: both.

Any other questions Zan?
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Postby webbo » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:17 pm

I am confused as to how the question I posted on the 'ordinary Cyprus forum' now finds it way onto the 'Cyprus problem'? Who switched? A real puzzler eh? No half as puzzling to me after skimming through all the replies though. sorry!

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Postby erolz » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:23 pm

zan wrote: I think we can take this as a confession don't you. First he claims he is a Cypriot and then he says it is a Greek Island...Which is it to be???Birkibrisli is dying to know :lol: :lol: :lol:


He is a Cypriot when it is necessary to express his comunal desires at that of the cypriot 'people' (in order to denty TC that right seperately) and he is Greek when it comes to deciding if Cyprus is to exist at all as a state and a nation and a people.

Piratis wrote:First he claims he is a Londoner and then he claims it is a UK territory. Which is to be?

The answer to both questions is: both.

Any other questions Zan?


You can be both a Londer and claim london is part of the UK. You can not be both a Cypriot and claim Cyprus belongs to Greece, for the later requires the destruction of Cyprus, as a state and nationality. You can only claim the later if you claim to be a greek that happens to live in Cyprus, rather than a Cypriot - part of the CYpriot people (not greek) and a member of the Cypriot nation and state.

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Postby Piratis » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:24 pm

webbo, the short answer to you question is: It doesn't matter to anybody, except to those that want to divide Cypriots into groups, instead of treating Cypriots as one united group of people that can take decisions for their island in a democratic way as it happens everywhere else.
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Postby zan » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:27 pm

Piratis wrote:webbo, the short answer to you question is: It doesn't matter to anybody, except to those that want to divide Cypriots into groups, instead of treating Cypriots as one united group of people that can take decisions for their island in a democratic way as it happens everywhere else.



Anyone living between the years of 1963 and 74 will tell you that your kind of democracy is not for them :roll:
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Postby erolz » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:28 pm

Piratis wrote:webbo, the short answer to you question is: It doesn't matter to anybody, except to those that want to divide Cypriots into groups, instead of treating Cypriots as one united group of people that can take decisions for their island in a democratic way as it happens everywhere else.


You tell me you want to destroy Cyprus as a state, a nation and a people, because you are GREEK and then accuse ME of wanting to divide Cypriots into groups. LOL
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Postby T_C » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:35 pm

Piratis deep down you must understand what I'm saying but you're just countering everything to save face. :roll:

What I said wasnt no threat! Its the absolute truth and I'm suprised you can't see it. There is no denying that giving TCs the rights they want would be beneficial to your own people too! It might not be beneficial for you and your governments GREEK cause but it DEFINATELY would be beneficial for the Cypriot one.

We already know where your priorities lie and it's more the fault of people like you that part of our country is Turkified and not the TCs as you claim.
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Postby Piratis » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:37 pm

You can be both a Londer and claim london is part of the UK. You can not be both a Cypriot and claim Cyprus belongs to Greece, for the later requires the destruction of Cyprus, as a state and nationality.


What Cyprus is today has everything to do with what foreigners forced on Cypriots, and nothing to do with what Cypriots are.
Regarding the "destruction" of Cyprus as a state, this is exactly what you are trying to do since you do not even recognize the Republic of Cyprus.


Any other questions ?


http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 279#194279
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Postby zan » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:41 pm

Piratis wrote:
You can be both a Londer and claim london is part of the UK. You can not be both a Cypriot and claim Cyprus belongs to Greece, for the later requires the destruction of Cyprus, as a state and nationality.


What Cyprus is today has everything to do with what foreigners forced on Cypriots, and nothing to do with what Cypriots are.
Regarding the "destruction" of Cyprus as a state, this is exactly what you are trying to do since you do not even recognize the Republic of Cyprus.


Any other questions ?


http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 279#194279

Oh Stop acting like a brainless racist git...You are a bloody foreigner on Cyprus..Your a bloody Greek :roll:
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