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Does it matter where you are born?

Postby webbo » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:50 pm

Until recently if asked, my reply to my nationality was always British as I was born in England. Now, after years of listening to the Scots, Welsh and Irish state -and quite categorically - that they are not British but indeed Scottish, Welsh or Irish, I too have fallen into this trap and tell everyone I am English. Not sure of my intentions, ie, am I being patriotic and true to my country or am I just doing it to annoy the others? Probably a bit of both if I am honest!!! :)


Therefore I ask the same question to all you TC and GC out there? Why do you use your heritage as opposed to just stating that you are Cypriot? Is is for the same reasons as myself?

Looking forward to your replies.
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Postby Peterc » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:55 pm

wrong forum for this i think, as the majority here are purely british cypriots.
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Postby webbo » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:58 pm

Peterc wrote:wrong forum for this i think, as the majority here are purely british cypriots.


I think not!!!! But going by your reply, would that be EC, SC, WC or IC?? :? :? :?

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Postby RRichie » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:59 pm

Hi Webbo
I'm English as well and I used to be proud to be English, but when I see the behaviour of some of my Countrymen abroad I am sometimes ashamed to be English, however I cant change who I am and why should I, I have respect for other cultures and traditions and as for the idiots its their loss. Anyway just got that off my chest so all the GCs and TCs can reply.
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Postby webbo » Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:02 pm

RRichie wrote:Hi Webbo
I'm English as well and I used to be proud to be English, but when I see the behaviour of some of my Countrymen abroad I am sometimes ashamed to be English, however I cant change who I am and why should I, I have respect for other cultures and traditions and as for the idiots its their loss. Anyway just got that off my chest so all the GCs and TCs can reply.
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Cannot be brought down by the 'idiotic few', alas it does happen the world over. :( Keep flying the flag, speaking of which we do have both an English flag and the Union Jack flying around our house

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Re: Does it matter where you are born?

Postby Chimera » Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:35 pm

webbo wrote:Until recently if asked, my reply to my nationality was always British as I was born in England. Now, after years of listening to the Scots, Welsh and Irish state -and quite categorically - that they are not British but indeed Scottish, Welsh or Irish, I too have fallen into this trap and tell everyone I am English. Not sure of my intentions, ie, am I being patriotic and true to my country or am I just doing it to annoy the others? Probably a bit of both if I am honest!!! :)


Therefore I ask the same question to all you TC and GC out there? Why do you use your heritage as opposed to just stating that you are Cypriot? Is is for the same reasons as myself?

Looking forward to your replies.
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The term "British" is a political term brought in to encompass all those under British Administration in the Empire.
As such Cypriots were once all British. As you too are, if born in Britain. Your ethnic origins may be different depending on whether you're Gaelic, Celtic or Anglo-Saxon. That does not change you being British as well.

Those born before 1960 on Cyprus, could chose to drop the label "British" altogether and resort to the descriptions delineated by the British administration at the time ie Turkish Cypriot or Greek Cypriot.
This was a fallacy (intended or otherwise) which has had the gravest of consequences for Cyprus.
Namely, that the Turks which were honoured with the title Turkish Cypriots, asssumed, demanded and eventually got a slice of Cyprus.
And, unfortunately, for the Indigenous Cypriots whose rightful claim to Cyprus, was diluted out by the use of the term Greek.
However, the Indigenous Cypriots do remain Hellenic as a "brand" name similar to your British.

There are so many nations represented in the U.K. now, that a desire to elevate oneself from guests/visitors/invaders, probably may need to be addressed.
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Re: Does it matter where you are born?

Postby webbo » Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:57 pm

Chimera wrote:
webbo wrote:Until recently if asked, my reply to my nationality was always British as I was born in England. Now, after years of listening to the Scots, Welsh and Irish state -and quite categorically - that they are not British but indeed Scottish, Welsh or Irish, I too have fallen into this trap and tell everyone I am English. Not sure of my intentions, ie, am I being patriotic and true to my country or am I just doing it to annoy the others? Probably a bit of both if I am honest!!! :)


Therefore I ask the same question to all you TC and GC out there? Why do you use your heritage as opposed to just stating that you are Cypriot? Is is for the same reasons as myself?

Looking forward to your replies.
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The term "British" is a political term brought in to encompass all those under British Administration in the Empire.
As such Cypriots were once all British. As you too are, if born in Britain. Your ethnic origins may be different depending on whether you're Gaelic, Celtic or Anglo-Saxon. That does not change you being British as well.

Those born before 1960 on Cyprus, could chose to drop the label "British" altogether and resort to the descriptions delineated by the British administration at the time ie Turkish Cypriot or Greek Cypriot.
This was a fallacy (intended or otherwise) which has had the gravest of consequences for Cyprus.
Namely, that the Turks which were honoured with the title Turkish Cypriots, asssumed, demanded and eventually got a slice of Cyprus.
And, unfortunately, for the Indigenous Cypriots whose rightful claim to Cyprus, was diluted out by the use of the term Greek.
However, the Indigenous Cypriots do remain Hellenic as a "brand" name similar to your British.

There are so many nations represented in the U.K. now, that a desire to elevate oneself from guests/visitors/invaders, probably may need to be addressed.


Bit confused! :? I know what I am and where I am from, but do you?

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Postby Chimera » Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:05 pm

Congratulations. You MUST be English!

Arrogant, simple-minded and lacking in depth. No colour, no mix, no interesting confusions to brighten up your existence.

I have never met a pure Englishman without an exotic mix of Viking, or Scot etc etc in him/her. You are truly unique.

You belong in The Wellcome Trust Museum of interesting Scientific abnormalities.
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Postby webbo » Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:08 pm

Chimera wrote:Congratulations. You MUST be English!

Arrogant,simple-minded and lacking in depth. No colour, no mix, no interesting confusions to brighten up you existence.

I have never met a pure Englishman without an exotic mix of Viking, or Scot etc etc in him/her.

You belong in The Wellcome Trust Museum of interesting Scientific abnormalities.


At least I can take insults, though you obviously cannot take either insults or jokes!!! Lighten up or did I hit a nerve? A man or mouse?
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Postby Chimera » Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:12 pm

webbo wrote:
Chimera wrote:Congratulations. You MUST be English!

Arrogant,simple-minded and lacking in depth. No colour, no mix, no interesting confusions to brighten up you existence.

I have never met a pure Englishman without an exotic mix of Viking, or Scot etc etc in him/her.

You belong in The Wellcome Trust Museum of interesting Scientific abnormalities.


At least I can take insults, though you obviously cannot take either insults or jokes!!! Lighten up or did I hit a nerve? A man or mouse?


Okay, again you are English. A wind-up merchant par excellance (excuse my French, I know how much you must hate them). :wink:
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