Cyprus - Just Imagine what peace could bring!
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 Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:07 am |
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| CypriotandProud |
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Who Am I: A Cypriot, married with 2 children who wants them to grow up in a united cyprus.
Vision: Prosperity and peace for all Cypriots.
In ten years we could still be all playing political tennis in this never ending final set..
OR we could fix it - right now - Start!
The Cyprus Problem:
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The main sticking points are many within these 3 key areas:
1)Balance and concentration of power within any unified government;
2)Turkish troop concentrations in the north;
3)The return of property relinquished by Greek refugees and since occupied by Turkish settlers.
How we can fix it
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I don't have all the answers but I hope we can discuss and look at positive ways that we can address these sticking points !!
I Propose the following:
1) One elected government of Cyprus; elections monitored for fairness by the EU and a new constitution drawn up that will be put to the public Vote in referendum. Government elected would naturally be those that appeal to all Cypriots.
2) All troops leave Cyprus. New Army formed made up of all Cypriots.
- British Bases turned into nature reserves and enterprise zones for the people. Places where new Universities, Industrial Parks and resorts are created by the state to encourage collaboration between the communities.
3) All refugees (given the option to) return to their property - Re housing for those non Cypriot who wish to remain in Cyprus or $300k cash to go back where they came from. EU funds spent on rebuilding the North, new wealth from Oil and Gas spent on pubic and community infrastructure.
Visions of the Future
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Our motto could be:
One Cyprus that has an enriching mix of peoples who live together in harmony, peace and prosperity that will never be divided again.
A new citizenship that is democratic and proud to be Cypriot: We have a beautiful island, some of the most cleaver educated people; oil & gas, some of the best food and you’re telling me that we should divide it!
With the Oil Cyprus has alone we should be able to become a country with one of the best standards of living..
Your choice... If you divide this island it will be the people of turkey and greece that profit. If you keep it whole then Cypriots will flourish and profit as they did before.
As i said before I'm no expert, just putting things out there - someone with constitutional law needs to look at how this can be achived..
Prosperity = Peace.
lets get started...who's up for this I need likeminded Cypriots please...
I'm willing to compile the results of this post and present to UN, EU, Turkey and Greece.
I'm sure there will be the usual "hate" posts from both sides but we can ignore those.. lets focus on the good, considered and responsible posts that can help us fix this bad situation... |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:39 am |
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| miltiades |
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Welcome to the forum , as you may already know there are many on this forum who are proud to be Cypriots .
We have covered the Cyprob on numerous treads and no doubt we shall do so on many more. |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:48 pm |
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| CypriotandProud |
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| miltiades wrote: |
Welcome to the forum , as you may already know there are many on this forum who are proud to be Cypriots .
We have covered the Cyprob on numerous treads and no doubt we shall do so on many more. |
Prof interested in your opinion in my post? |
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| Re: Cyprus - Just Imagine what peace could bring! | |
| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:50 pm |
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| denizaksulu |
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| CypriotandProud wrote: |
Who Am I: A Cypriot, married with 2 children who wants them to grow up in a united cyprus.
Vision: Prosperity and peace for all Cypriots.
In ten years we could still be all playing political tennis in this never ending final set..
OR we could fix it - right now - Start!
The Cyprus Problem:
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The main sticking points are many within these 3 key areas:
1)Balance and concentration of power within any unified government;
2)Turkish troop concentrations in the north;
3)The return of property relinquished by Greek refugees and since occupied by Turkish settlers.
How we can fix it
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I don't have all the answers but I hope we can discuss and look at positive ways that we can address these sticking points !!
I Propose the following:
1) One elected government of Cyprus; elections monitored for fairness by the EU and a new constitution drawn up that will be put to the public Vote in referendum. Government elected would naturally be those that appeal to all Cypriots.
2) All troops leave Cyprus. New Army formed made up of all Cypriots.
- British Bases turned into nature reserves and enterprise zones for the people. Places where new Universities, Industrial Parks and resorts are created by the state to encourage collaboration between the communities.
3) All refugees (given the option to) return to their property - Re housing for those non Cypriot who wish to remain in Cyprus or $300k cash to go back where they came from. EU funds spent on rebuilding the North, new wealth from Oil and Gas spent on pubic and community infrastructure.
Visions of the Future
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Our motto could be:
One Cyprus that has an enriching mix of peoples who live together in harmony, peace and prosperity that will never be divided again.
A new citizenship that is democratic and proud to be Cypriot: We have a beautiful island, some of the most cleaver educated people; oil & gas, some of the best food and you’re telling me that we should divide it!
With the Oil Cyprus has alone we should be able to become a country with one of the best standards of living..
Your choice... If you divide this island it will be the people of turkey and greece that profit. If you keep it whole then Cypriots will flourish and profit as they did before.
As i said before I'm no expert, just putting things out there - someone with constitutional law needs to look at how this can be achived..
Prosperity = Peace.
lets get started...who's up for this I need likeminded Cypriots please...
I'm willing to compile the results of this post and present to UN, EU, Turkey and Greece.
I'm sure there will be the usual "hate" posts from both sides but we can ignore those.. lets focus on the good, considered and responsible posts that can help us fix this bad situation... |
Hold it right there till I welcome you. Welcome to the forum.
I could not pass past item 3). I got stuck there. Please also include into your discussion the properties in the south left behind by TCs .
Thanks , now I will read your post to the end.
Good luck. Mostly might be repetitive, but you might come up with a gem of a solution.
Regards
DA |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:44 pm |
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| Nikitas |
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Welcome,
Always useful to have a new perspective but PLEASE NO MORE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT! It is getting so I am becoming allergic to the word. I have nothing against our permanent foreign residents, they appreciate the island as is. But those "developments" that are engineered to put money in the pockets of a few weasels should be strictly comtrolled under a solution, maybe even by constitutional decree in the new state constitution. |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:36 pm |
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| CopperLine |
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Nikitas,
I'd echo your comment about 'tourist development'. Perhaps one way to severely restrict such developments, N & S, if not halt them completely, without going so far as a constitutional prohibition would be to insist that all tourist developments must be energy self-sufficient, fulfil certain water use standards and be supplied only/primarily from local agricultural markets. |
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| Re: Cyprus - Just Imagine what peace could bring! | |
| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:23 pm |
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| CypriotandProud |
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[quote="denizaksulu"][quote="CypriotandProud"]
I could not pass past item 3). I got stuck there. Please also include into your discussion the properties in the south left behind by TCs .
- properties in the south were left behind by TCs voluntary as they were told to head north by denktash. The Cypriots were forced out the ones that stayed left eventually. |
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| Re: Cyprus - Just Imagine what peace could bring! | |
| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:24 pm |
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[quote="CypriotandProud"][quote="denizaksulu"]
| CypriotandProud wrote: |
I could not pass past item 3). I got stuck there. Please also include into your discussion the properties in the south left behind by TCs .
- properties in the south were left behind by TCs voluntary as they were told to head north by denktash. The Cypriots were forced out the ones that stayed left eventually. |
They left under duress. You have no idea have you. You read too much official RoC propaganda. They might not have left at gunpoint, but they were uder duress and in fear of their lives. They had to move into enclaves for better protection. You, I am afraid have lost your credibility.
Regards
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:44 pm |
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| free_cyprus |
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i dont think cyprus shoud have an army at all, i think it should neutural island no army
thats for starters second get rid of all turkish and greek flags
third get rid of their history books to
fourth declaire indepence recognising that we have nothign to do with greece or turkey and we dont need their help
fitsh stop being soo fecking blind regarding your identities and be rpud to be cypriots instead of shouting your greek and turkish cypriots
sixth i will run for president myself if all the obove can be achieved lol |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:07 am |
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| free_cyprus wrote: |
i dont think cyprus shoud have an army at all, i think it should neutural island no army
thats for starters second get rid of all turkish and greek flags
third get rid of their history books to
fourth declaire indepence recognising that we have nothign to do with greece or turkey and we dont need their help
fitsh stop being soo fecking blind regarding your identities and be rpud to be cypriots instead of shouting your greek and turkish cypriots
sixth i will run for president myself if all the obove can be achieved lol |
Where are the men with white coats? |
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