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A different history - G & T workers have common i

Postby CopperLine » Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:57 pm

There is a different history. The history of working people. Here is an extract from the memoir of Pantelis Varnava. This extract refers to events in 1956.

To all Workers,
Greeks and Turks

In recent days some unpleasant events have taken place in Nicosia which resulted in conflict between Greeks and Turks.

There is no doubt that these terrible events may harm the interests of the two communities, and that things may become worse if we are not careful and allow the situation to spread.

Greek and Turkish workers have common interests. Their problems are the same. Social security, the cost of living, housing etc., all all these issues are of concern to both Greeks and Turks. In order to solve these problems, joint, unified struggles are needed. Turkish workers must join hands with Greek workers, Turkish women must join hands with Greek women, and all together try to solve our problems.

After recent events, some have tried to cause economic war by calling on Greeks to not shop from Turks or Turks from Greeks.

We must combat this situation. It is a big mistake. This would create enmity between Greeks and Turks.


The full text is at http://www.peace-cyprus.org/Memories/Labor/
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Postby DT. » Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:58 pm

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Postby Nikitas » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:35 am

Copperline,

Some weeks back I tried to see if there was class element in some aspects of the Cyprus problem. From the lack of response it was evident that forum members are not marxist inclined.

There was an article in Politis newspaper three weeks ago which analysed the class element in the EOKA struggle against the British. According to the author the EOKA members were village boys. THeir subsequent appointment to positions of power displaced the urban working class and the middle class from the center stage of Cypriot politics, and this was to the detriment of society as a whole.

Occasionally and from unexpected sources, come glimpses of life before the 1950s and it is obvious that back then the classes crossed the ethnic divide. I recall a documentary about the Ledra palace hotel and how it was the focal point for the upper classes of Nicosia high society regardless of communal origins. It really might be revealing to look at Cyprus from a class point of view both historically and as an element in future development.
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Re: A different history - G & T workers have common i

Postby Kifeas » Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:11 pm

CopperLine wrote:There is a different history. The history of working people. Here is an extract from the memoir of Pantelis Varnava. This extract refers to events in 1956.

To all Workers,
Greeks and Turks

In recent days some unpleasant events have taken place in Nicosia which resulted in conflict between Greeks and Turks.

There is no doubt that these terrible events may harm the interests of the two communities, and that things may become worse if we are not careful and allow the situation to spread.

Greek and Turkish workers have common interests. Their problems are the same. Social security, the cost of living, housing etc., all all these issues are of concern to both Greeks and Turks. In order to solve these problems, joint, unified struggles are needed. Turkish workers must join hands with Greek workers, Turkish women must join hands with Greek women, and all together try to solve our problems.

After recent events, some have tried to cause economic war by calling on Greeks to not shop from Turks or Turks from Greeks.

We must combat this situation. It is a big mistake. This would create enmity between Greeks and Turks.


The full text is at http://www.peace-cyprus.org/Memories/Labor/


I am glad you have slowly started discovering the other more true history of Cyprus, that of co-existence and co-operation throughout the years and centuries; instead of coming here to promote the ideology of separation and contributing in this way to the furthering of TC brainwashing and intransigence! To this end, I can only salute your last post!
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Re: A different history - G & T workers have common i

Postby zan » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:20 pm

Kifeas wrote:
CopperLine wrote:There is a different history. The history of working people. Here is an extract from the memoir of Pantelis Varnava. This extract refers to events in 1956.

To all Workers,
Greeks and Turks

In recent days some unpleasant events have taken place in Nicosia which resulted in conflict between Greeks and Turks.

There is no doubt that these terrible events may harm the interests of the two communities, and that things may become worse if we are not careful and allow the situation to spread.

Greek and Turkish workers have common interests. Their problems are the same. Social security, the cost of living, housing etc., all all these issues are of concern to both Greeks and Turks. In order to solve these problems, joint, unified struggles are needed. Turkish workers must join hands with Greek workers, Turkish women must join hands with Greek women, and all together try to solve our problems.

After recent events, some have tried to cause economic war by calling on Greeks to not shop from Turks or Turks from Greeks.

We must combat this situation. It is a big mistake. This would create enmity between Greeks and Turks.


The full text is at http://www.peace-cyprus.org/Memories/Labor/


I am glad you have slowly started discovering the other more true history of Cyprus, that of co-existence and co-operation throughout the years and centuries; instead of coming here to promote the ideology of separation and contributing in this way to the furthering of TC brainwashing and intransigence! To this end, I can only salute your last post!


Who the hell do you think you are!!!!! :roll: We are not children to be dictated to or fooled. We have our own ideas and understanding. We are Turkish Cypriots, hear us roar. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: A different history - G & T workers have common i

Postby halil » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:30 pm

Kifeas wrote:
CopperLine wrote:There is a different history. The history of working people. Here is an extract from the memoir of Pantelis Varnava. This extract refers to events in 1956.

To all Workers,
Greeks and Turks

In recent days some unpleasant events have taken place in Nicosia which resulted in conflict between Greeks and Turks.

There is no doubt that these terrible events may harm the interests of the two communities, and that things may become worse if we are not careful and allow the situation to spread.

Greek and Turkish workers have common interests. Their problems are the same. Social security, the cost of living, housing etc., all all these issues are of concern to both Greeks and Turks. In order to solve these problems, joint, unified struggles are needed. Turkish workers must join hands with Greek workers, Turkish women must join hands with Greek women, and all together try to solve our problems.

After recent events, some have tried to cause economic war by calling on Greeks to not shop from Turks or Turks from Greeks.

We must combat this situation. It is a big mistake. This would create enmity between Greeks and Turks.


The full text is at http://www.peace-cyprus.org/Memories/Labor/


I am glad you have slowly started discovering the other more true history of Cyprus, that of co-existence and co-operation throughout the years and centuries; instead of coming here to promote the ideology of separation and contributing in this way to the furthering of TC brainwashing and intransigence! To this end, I can only salute your last post! SO what was going wrong ? these two communities co-operation broke down !!! İ wasn't living at that time.İ was born at 1957.No one is denying they were living in peace and harmony . what's happened ?
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Re: A different history - G & T workers have common i

Postby Kifeas » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:38 pm

zan wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
CopperLine wrote:There is a different history. The history of working people. Here is an extract from the memoir of Pantelis Varnava. This extract refers to events in 1956.

To all Workers,
Greeks and Turks

In recent days some unpleasant events have taken place in Nicosia which resulted in conflict between Greeks and Turks.

There is no doubt that these terrible events may harm the interests of the two communities, and that things may become worse if we are not careful and allow the situation to spread.

Greek and Turkish workers have common interests. Their problems are the same. Social security, the cost of living, housing etc., all all these issues are of concern to both Greeks and Turks. In order to solve these problems, joint, unified struggles are needed. Turkish workers must join hands with Greek workers, Turkish women must join hands with Greek women, and all together try to solve our problems.

After recent events, some have tried to cause economic war by calling on Greeks to not shop from Turks or Turks from Greeks.

We must combat this situation. It is a big mistake. This would create enmity between Greeks and Turks.


The full text is at http://www.peace-cyprus.org/Memories/Labor/


I am glad you have slowly started discovering the other more true history of Cyprus, that of co-existence and co-operation throughout the years and centuries; instead of coming here to promote the ideology of separation and contributing in this way to the furthering of TC brainwashing and intransigence! To this end, I can only salute your last post!


Who the hell do you think you are!!!!! :roll: We are not children to be dictated to or fooled. We have our own ideas and understanding. We are Turkish Cypriots, hear us roar. :roll: :roll: :roll:


Yes "ich-oglan?" Did you say something? What can I do for you?
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Re: A different history - G & T workers have common i

Postby zan » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:43 pm

Kifeas wrote:
zan wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
CopperLine wrote:There is a different history. The history of working people. Here is an extract from the memoir of Pantelis Varnava. This extract refers to events in 1956.

To all Workers,
Greeks and Turks

In recent days some unpleasant events have taken place in Nicosia which resulted in conflict between Greeks and Turks.

There is no doubt that these terrible events may harm the interests of the two communities, and that things may become worse if we are not careful and allow the situation to spread.

Greek and Turkish workers have common interests. Their problems are the same. Social security, the cost of living, housing etc., all all these issues are of concern to both Greeks and Turks. In order to solve these problems, joint, unified struggles are needed. Turkish workers must join hands with Greek workers, Turkish women must join hands with Greek women, and all together try to solve our problems.

After recent events, some have tried to cause economic war by calling on Greeks to not shop from Turks or Turks from Greeks.

We must combat this situation. It is a big mistake. This would create enmity between Greeks and Turks.


The full text is at http://www.peace-cyprus.org/Memories/Labor/


I am glad you have slowly started discovering the other more true history of Cyprus, that of co-existence and co-operation throughout the years and centuries; instead of coming here to promote the ideology of separation and contributing in this way to the furthering of TC brainwashing and intransigence! To this end, I can only salute your last post!


Who the hell do you think you are!!!!! :roll: We are not children to be dictated to or fooled. We have our own ideas and understanding. We are Turkish Cypriots, hear us roar. :roll: :roll: :roll:


Yes "ich-oglan?" Did you say something? What can I do for you?



Kifeas

This might give you one more point on your IQ, doubling your score but I will have to take that risk.......I do not get offended when you call me a Turk...By name or any other way.... :idea: Hullooooooo!!!!!
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