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RECIPROCAL COMMUNITY RIGHTS PLAN

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RECIPROCAL COMMUNITY RIGHTS PLAN

Postby GreekForumer » Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:31 pm

RECIPROCAL COMMUNITY RIGHTS PLAN

"GCs will accept any TC community right if, and only if, the Kurds of Turkey can also claim the EXACT same right."

The beauty of this plan is twofold.

1. The GCs are COMPLETELY out of the loop. You cannot claim the GCs are being unfair because they are not negotiating these rights. TCs and mainland Turks can negotiate what these rights are.

2. Fairness. You cannot ask something of one community that your own community is not willing to accept. Surely ??
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Postby Oracle » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:30 am

This is a great test to distinguish between Hawks and Doves ..... :D

However, I think the stumbling block here might be the fairness value of such a proposal.

Do the Turks have a history of ministering fairness?

I know of no examples where the Turks have demonstrated the virtue of fairness.

Yet Reciprocity is a powerful cultural tool which forms the basis of survival and success of us, as individuals within a community ..... and on a Global scale in the reputation of countries. Generally a good reputation pays.

The practice of reciprocity has done more for the rapid expansion of brain power in all those species which practice it, than most other developmental characteristics.

So in order to practice reciprocity, you need a large brain / body ratio.

Indeed, acceptance of fairness as a complex cultural practice requires a large brain.

So is the stumbling block to leap into the practice of "fairness" ... unfair to ask of Turks? :?
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Postby Nurgary » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:48 am

Can you 2 idiots please tell me "What colour is the sky in your World"?
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Postby Oracle » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:59 am

Nurgary wrote:Can you 2 idiots please tell me "What colour is the sky in your World"?


Why .... do you suffer from colour-blindness? :?

It is more common in males than females .... Which type are you?

Of course, there are those who philosophise on our "perception" of colour .... Do you perceive?

On the whole .... I prefer those posters for whom the simple act of addressing the thread takes precedence ... Are you able? 8)
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Postby Nurgary » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:33 pm

You just need to focus on reality - not you view of reality.

What you don't take into account that TC's have rights also - It's not just a GC Island.

Your problem is that you have "Diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the ideas".
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Postby Oracle » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:50 pm

Nurgary wrote:You just need to focus on reality - not you view of reality.

What you don't take into account that TC's have rights also - It's not just a GC Island.
Your problem is that you have "Diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the ideas".


That's the best you could spew :?

If I'd known you were the one on forum duty for the Turks today ... I would not have bothered logging in ..... :roll:

Perhaps, they've just left you as the mouthpiece whilst the "brains" have a conference on how to tackle the thorny conundrum of "Turks and Fairness" ... whilst steering away reprisals for their countless betrayals .....
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:52 pm

Nurgary wrote:You just need to focus on reality - not you view of reality.

What you don't take into account that TC's have rights also - It's not just a GC Island.

Your problem is that you have "Diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the ideas".


Why are you avoiding the question from GreekForumer? Is it too hard for you to answer? I would be interested in what you have to say.
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Postby Nurgary » Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:11 pm

Because is this not a CYPRUS forum not a Kurd (Be they Iraqui, Iranian, Turkish, Syrian) one.

The issues are always deflected away from the Cyprus problem. Now if GC's can agree the facts that problem didn't start in 74 due to the intervention but before that some progess may be made.
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:15 pm

Nurgary wrote:Because is this not a CYPRUS forum not a Kurd (Be they Iraqui, Iranian, Turkish, Syrian) one.

The issues are always deflected away from the Cyprus problem. Now if GC's can agree the facts that problem didn't start in 74 due to the intervention but before that some progess may be made.


As Oracle stated, it is a test of recprocity and fairness. But you do not have the right brain/body index to comprehend.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:03 pm

Nurgary wrote:Because is this not a CYPRUS forum not a Kurd (Be they Iraqui, Iranian, Turkish, Syrian) one.

The issues are always deflected away from the Cyprus problem. Now if GC's can agree the facts that problem didn't start in 74 due to the intervention but before that some progess may be made.


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This is the "Cyprus Problem Solution Proposals" section .... in order to find solutions you may have to think "outside the box".

However, since you mention the Kurds ... they are in fact still within the "box" of the Cyprus Problem, if only because we have both suffered at the hands of a common enemy.

So on that basis the problems for Cyprus may well have started prior to 1974 ...... And they continue .... Same as for the Kurds ...

Turks have been unfair to Cypriots and Kurds for a very long time and in a great many ways.

The many parallels may help draw the enemy out ....
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