Kretchmer: Signing protocol amounts to recognition of RoC
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| magikthrill |
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| turkcyp wrote: |
Actions speak louder than words.
It is not important what you call yourself. You can call yourself not Cypriot but TC for that matter, it does not matter to me. As long as a TC/GC differentiates between another TC and GC then you can not talk about the same nation.
For example look at the marriage rates between TCs and GCs. Look at the commercial transactions between GCs and TCs. (and use the data before 1963 before we start killing each other). You will immediately see that a GC does not view a TC as another GC and a TC does not view a GC as another TC.
As long as this attitude exists, there is no point of arguing that there is one Cypriot people. You can claim that there is only one Cypriot people in terms of citizenship, but not in terms of ethnicity and in terms of peoples attitudes. |
you dont have to interbreed with someone to think of them as your co-citizens (although that would help). replace black and white with GCs and TCs in your above argument for the US.
The answer comes out to be that a black american doesnt view a white american as white but he still views him as american. |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:46 pm |
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| But in the end the black and white speaks the same language and they haven't experienced a 30 year divorce!! The Cyprus case is different! |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:07 pm |
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They didnt have a 30 year divorce period but they had decades of mistreatment and hundreds of years of being slaves.
The Cyprus situation is obviously different but not as different as you'd like it to be. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 12:10 am |
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| magikthrill, there will be always a discrimination of Turkish Cypriots under the socalled identity of "Cypriotness". I still cannot believe that the Greek Cypriots saw us as their compatriots. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:55 pm |
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Last edited by turkcyp on Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:20 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:58 pm |
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Last edited by turkcyp on Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:19 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:06 pm |
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Last edited by turkcyp on Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:15 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:29 am |
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One way or another we Greeks, that inhabit this island, and you Turks, that wish to live amongst us, will be once again left on our own! Then we shall talk again.
Whether Turkey joins the EU or not it is by now clear to all sides that Turkey's foreign policy objectives in terms of South Cyprus have been rendered absolete. Those who rely on a second invasion of the island, in this day and age, in case we Greeks (who inhabit Cyprus) decide to adopt measures that reflect the situation in the 1960's are mere dreamers!
That time has past, and soon YOU Turks will have no motherland to turn to! Then we shall talk again. |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:35 pm |
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| Andrik wrote: |
One way or another we Greeks, that inhabit this island, and you Turks, that wish to live amongst us, will be once again left on our own! Then we shall talk again.
Whether Turkey joins the EU or not it is by now clear to all sides that Turkey's foreign policy objectives in terms of South Cyprus have been rendered absolete. Those who rely on a second invasion of the island, in this day and age, in case we Greeks (who inhabit Cyprus) decide to adopt measures that reflect the situation in the 1960's are mere dreamers!
That time has past, and soon YOU Turks will have no motherland to turn to! Then we shall talk again. |
One day Andrik, you may learn that you share more traits with your TC neighbours than you do with this mythical Greek homeland you keep banging on about... |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 2:19 pm |
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| cannedmoose wrote: |
| Andrik wrote: |
One way or another we Greeks, that inhabit this island, and you Turks, that wish to live amongst us, will be once again left on our own! Then we shall talk again.
Whether Turkey joins the EU or not it is by now clear to all sides that Turkey's foreign policy objectives in terms of South Cyprus have been rendered absolete. Those who rely on a second invasion of the island, in this day and age, in case we Greeks (who inhabit Cyprus) decide to adopt measures that reflect the situation in the 1960's are mere dreamers!
That time has past, and soon YOU Turks will have no motherland to turn to! Then we shall talk again. |
One day Andrik, you may learn that you share more traits with your TC neighbours than you do with this mythical Greek homeland you keep banging on about... |
As much as you have in common with the British (I guess that you reside in the UK) ,such as taxes and the ability to watch the same channels on tv, the same can be applied to us! |
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