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[miltiades]

What is needed is for Islamic scholars from around the world to condemn outright such savage attacks on innocent Iraqis , not qualified with the usual comparisons generally offered in order to diminish the callousness of such crimes against humanity.
Let us hear from our dear friend of the Limassol mosque .

May be you are not aware of the Fatwa given by Muslim scholars 2 years before in Pakistan that it is Haram(Prohibited) in Islam to attempt suicide attack to kill innocent people whether it is against the Muslims or non Muslims.

i condemn the suicide attack in Iraq and surely Allah swt will punish those who were involved and surely Allah will punish those also who killed thousands of human being and children by invading Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestinian Land.

you may be aware there were survey done in USA that who is no one terrorist among Usama bin laden, Sadam husein and Goerge Bush. The Goerge Bush was declared no one.

i am not here to support Usama bin laden or sadam husein. i will always condemn the killing of innocent human being whether it is done by Usama bin laden, Sadam husein, Goerge bush, tony blair or Hilter or any one.

i will naver justify a suicide bombing unless it is in the battle field against the oppressor enemy to safe others. As If 1 tank is coming to kill thousand innocent human being. one may go and blast himself to destroy this tank to safe thousand other human beings.

i would like to listen from my dear friend miltides,

the language rawk h ave been using can be consider right in a public forum?

Were there suicide bombing so common before USA invade Iraq and Afghanistan?

is this freedom of expression that if one don't agree with someone view point. you start to abuse him/her in a public forum?

i hope you will be just inshallah

Thanks and have a good evening

I'm pleased that you consider the killing of innocents as a crime against humanity.
Let me from the outset state that I'm one of the many who have seen the light and have rejected the existence of a creator as well as condemn all actions of violence whether "haram "or " halal " . Furthermore I treat all religion as false but necessary especially amongst the people of the third world. I was born a Christian , I value all philosophies contained in religious beliefs but treat with contempt all contents that deal in violence , retribution , punishment or encouragement to commit murder in the name of there God.
You mention that Bush is more of a terrorist than Bin Laden , well that is ,ridiculuos my friend , Bush does not send suicide killers in your mosques , markets or funeral processions. 9/11 was an act of barbarous proportions and Afghanistan who harboured the perpetrators had to be attacked to stop the poisonous hatred directed against the West. Let me also state quite clearly that I consider the West to be at the forefront of humanitarian issues , at the forefront on human rights issues , freedom and liberty justice and fairness , virtues that none of the countries sharing your false beliefs have .Look at every single nation that deprives the individual of freedom and justice and you will see at the helm of this nation their false God. The West allows freedom of faith too , does Saudi Arabia allow freedom of faith ? NO SIR .
My God is real and far more powerful than your God. My God is the entire Free Human race . that does not classify people and animals into Kosher , halal or haram. It is a God of justice and care , accountable to real people NOW not in eternity. In short Sir , I believe in the goodness of the human race , the doctors who treat our sick , the scientists who make our lives so much easier , tangible virtues that are available to us all not only the "believers "
George Bush will soon become an Ex President , the new President , whoever she or he might be will be despised by those who follow terror just as much as Bush is now. When you consider that this latest attack on a pet market was propelled by those that consider birds , dogs and other animals as Haram !!! Such a barbaric attack carried out by people who , just as you do , consider George Bush a terrorist and Osama a Saint !!

[FreeSpirit]

What is needed is for Islamic scholars from around the world to condemn outright such savage attacks on innocent Iraqis , not qualified with the usual comparisons generally offered in order to diminish the callousness of such crimes against humanity.
Let us hear from our dear friend of the Limassol mosque .

May be you are not aware of the Fatwa given by Muslim scholars 2 years before in Pakistan that it is Haram(Prohibited) in Islam to attempt suicide attack to kill innocent people whether it is against the Muslims or non Muslims.

i condemn the suicide attack in Iraq and surely Allah swt will punish those who were involved and surely Allah will punish those also who killed thousands of human being and children by invading Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestinian Land.

you may be aware there were survey done in USA that who is no one terrorist among Usama bin laden, Sadam husein and Goerge Bush. The Goerge Bush was declared no one.

i am not here to support Usama bin laden or sadam husein. i will always condemn the killing of innocent human being whether it is done by Usama bin laden, Sadam husein, Goerge bush, tony blair or Hilter or any one.

i will naver justify a suicide bombing unless it is in the battle field against the oppressor enemy to safe others. As If 1 tank is coming to kill thousand innocent human being. one may go and blast himself to destroy this tank to safe thousand other human beings.

i would like to listen from my dear friend miltides,

the language rawk h ave been using can be consider right in a public forum?

Were there suicide bombing so common before USA invade Iraq and Afghanistan?

is this freedom of expression that if one don't agree with someone view point. you start to abuse him/her in a public forum?

i hope you will be just inshallah

Thanks and have a good evening

I think you took the wrong turning at islamabd, the suicide bombers are not in Cyprus, head East until you reach iraq, then having cleaned up that place go back to pakistan where they paint their mosques in different colours such as red, they'll welcome you there when you tell them how wrong they are to kill each other; and finaly pop over the border into peaceful 'Poppy Land' where islam is funded by heroin, AKA afghanistan where they use women school teachers for target practice.
Does all this paint a picture of Cyprus? and you would have us give up our evil ways and turn to the affore mentioned islamic Pig (PBUH) Holes.

[FreeSpirit]

[quote="QAMERSLANDWere there suicide bombing so common before USA invade Iraq and Afghanistan?.[/quote]

Of course there were ask Eliko it's their culture and tradition.
Culture and tradition are not overnight happenings they take many years to develope, so yes according to Eliko and his mates long before recent events; it's their culture and tradition you know.



Feeling suicidal? go visit your neighbours.

[rawk]

Thank you Miltiades. Its the first rational and humanist opinion I've heard expressed on this forum for a long time. Unfortunately you will find that it will not be picked up and debated in a rational manner by Qamersland.

He will ignore your points and quote great chunks of the Qu'ran or post a few U-tube links. He will never answer a direct question, he is evasive and shallow in argument with anti western propaganda the basis of his views.

He also missed the point in my original posting. The evil perverts in Iraq did not use suicide bombers, a suicide bomber exercises their free will, for whatever perverted idealogy or faith.

They used mentally disabled young women suffering from Down's Syndrome.

How can they justify the nobleness of their cause by using the most vulnerable. Whilst the western countries gives rights and care to our disabled, these inhuman beasts see them as no more a means to an end.

My muslim friends are appalled by this act. Disabled people, especially the children. are "Inshallah", blessed by God as one of his own.

Qamersland will give you no hope of any recognition of the truth by him, he lives in a world of self delusion and doesn't hesitate to use any means, any ruse, any quote to justify his warped sense of reality.

After failing to elicit any response to rational argument, I realised that the best way to deal with a fanatic was to hold up a mirror to his sad delusions and open his rantings up to ridicule.

And it works! Humour and irony have no place in the mind of the self deluded, they become unsure how to respond. Invariably they make greater fools of themselves in the process.

rawk

[rawk]

Give it a rest for fucks sake....

I agree Zan. I presume you are referring to the bomb blasts in Iraq.

rawk

[BC Numismatics]

Rawk,Zan is getting peeved off with the Islamiphobic postings from some members.TRUE Muslims DO NOT support terrorism & murder.

Aidan.

[Eliko]

I presume zan is referring to the ignorant attacks upon a holy man, there is nothing gracious about demonstrating just how low you are prepared to demean yourselves in order to offer insult, regardless of whether you believe in his teachings or otherwise.

Actually , you only emphasize his superiority by so doing, since he does not respond in kind.

in my humble opinion.

[rawk]

So when your stuck for something to say, ie. dumbstruck!

Or you realise your argument has been proved a dead duck!

You suddenly become superior?

Because you suddenly affect airs and graces, ie : -

"How dare they challenge what I have to say, so I will not respond to them, for I am superior"

Sounds like an argument for paranoia or megolomania, me old fruit!

Oh and another thing,

"Zan is referring to the ignorant attacks on a holy man"

Holy man? Holy Man? You're having a giraffe, aren't you?

The collander I used to strain my vegetables tonight is holier than old Sqamers and a lot more useful too!

And don't forget that on December 29th at 1:11 pm, this so called holy man or hollow man decided to inflict his nonsense on us.

YOU MUST KNOW THIS MAN - MUHAMMAD (PEACE BE UPON HIM)
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:11 pm

QAMERSLAND
instructor

You must know this man before passing any remarks otherwise you should not comment if you are not interested in knowing him. you are not welcome if you got no manners to discuss by respecting the topic.

If he choses to do this then surely I have the right to respond to his ramblings without being accused of ignorant attacks, I tried reason, I tried logic, I tried to demonstrate the errors in his statements.

The response?

More turgid quotations, ignored reasoned points, failed to answer specific questions, no attempt at reasoned discussion. In all, the failings of a clever fool who was caught out.

A hollow man, with no real core except a mishmash of Qu'aranic quotation and anti western rhetoric with a few U-Tube links for good measure.

I know things didn't go well for him at the Limassol Mosque despite his attempts to cover up his links to it by deleting and changing items on its webpage but there is a saying,

"those whom the Gods wish to destroy, they first make mad!"

He's halfway there!

rawk

[FreeSpirit]

I know things didn't go well for him at the Limassol Mosque despite his attempts to cover up his links to it by deleting and changing items on its webpage but there is a saying,

"those whom the Gods wish to destroy, they first make mad!"

He's halfway there!

rawk

And his other mate nadia I reckon it's a neck and neck race at the moment.

[rawk]

I agree old mate!

I think old Eliko is a bit of all right, not so much a nutjob as a stirrer.

Hi FreeSpirit

I think Sqamers got his arse roasted over at Limassol though. I think he's free lancing at the moment.

I can't suss the guy, he's either a complete knob jockey or a very clever mischief maker whose got some sort of agenda to make muslims around here as fall guys for what happens a bit east of us.

He's been something up his own arse at Limassol Musk though, seems to be running their website, probably still is, as the poor saps haven't even sussed they've got one!

That other poisoned dwarf, BC Aidan Workshy deserves everything you can throw at him!

How the hell the New Zealand immigration let that twisted demented excuse of a tosspot in, I'll never fathom. Puts you off going there!

Nutjobs of the world unite.

rawk