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Excessive Turkish reactions to the fire in Ludwigshafen
By Henrik R Clausen

While Turkish nationalists attacking our servers is annoying, what is more sinister is the background and the behaviour of the Turkish press and politicians in reaction to the Ludwigshafen fire.

They reacted to a bit of graffiti on the burned-out building, as if graffiti wasn't everywhere in Germany, and jumped to the conclusion that this would most likely be the beginning of a new wave of racist attacks on Turks in Germany, like the racist arson attack in Solingen in 1993.

By reacting in this way, however fickle the evidence, the *Turkish* politicians are posing as the protectors of Turks in Germany, disregarding that Germany has a fine legal system. That includes the Turkish prime minister Erdogan visiting the place of the fire, holding a joint press conference with Angela Merkel and lots of press articles recalling the, implying that now a new wave of racist attacks against Turks is looming. Indicative of the distrust from the Turkish side, a Turkish investigation team was sent to the site as well – Germans should be perfectly able to examine the site themselves.

This spectacle by the Turkish politicians ignores hat the fire-fighters were doing a marvellous job (no 'racism' here), that the cause of the fire is still unknown after four days of investigation and might be simply bad electric circuits. Ignored is also the context that the 1993 attack was extensively exploited by Turkish investment groups to discourage Turks in Germany from investing their hard-earned money in Germany. Later these Turkish investment groups went into bankruptcies (German link), losing a € 25 billion in a network of AKP-connected businessmen (and probably AKP itself). The potential gains by creating another Solingen-like crisis are impressive.

Finally, the performance of the Turkish politicians posing as the protectors of Turks in Germany is a divisive move eeringly similar to the events that eventually led to the division of Cyprus. This is counter-productive to integration but fits well with the "special role" Erdogan assigns the Turkish diaspora in Europe. We are on the edge of insurgencies in many places, latest in Cologne.

What we would like to see from the German politicians, instead of the nice photo-ops, is a clear statement that there is no need to assume racist motives for the fire, no need for ministers of foreign nationality to intervene in the matter, and that the German authorities are perfectly capable of investigating the matter on their own. The Turkish government is already much over the top on this matter and can use a polite lesson on respectfully abstaining from meddling in the internal affairs of other countries and on the primacy of the Rule of law.

Then, suitably, apply that lesson to Turkey proper, where violence against non-Muslims is a significant problem, much more so than any graffiti-based rumours of arson.

http://europenews.dk/en/node/6878

[paliometoxo]

are they gona send turkish army for another "peace operation" and take half of germany now?

[BC Numismatics]

Paliometoxo,the Turkish government is a very hypocritical government,just like the Irish government is.They say one thing to the international community,& another thing to their people.

Aidan.

[utu]

You folks are talking about the Turkish people and the Turkish nation like they're a giant boogeyman....

[tessintrnc]

Paliometoxo,the Turkish government is a very hypocritical government,just like the Irish government is.They say one thing to the international community,& another thing to their people.

Aidan.

And what is hypocritical about being concerned for your Citizens? As for stirring up racial tensions:

Erdogan appealed to the Turkish media to show restraint following reports stating that the fire was a cold-blooded attempt to kill Turks living in the southwestern city.

"You should not print such bold letters that can destroy the peace," he said.

The Turkish prime minister had himself earlier this week voiced concern that the fire might have been the work of arsonists.

"We are greatly concerned over the possibility of premeditation in the fire, in which all the victims were Turks," he said on Tuesday.

"Is the real reason behind this sad event xenophobia? We hope not."

Had they been English, or Greek or any other nationality that appeared to be targeted purely because of natiıonality there would have been an outcry if their Motherland had not called for an investigation.
Tess

[BC Numismatics]

Tess,the Turkish government likes to slam other countries' governments for not stamping out racism,yet the human rights record of the Turkish government is abominable,as the policies towards the ethnic & religious minorities in Turkey are in themselves extremely racist.

Aidan.

[Bill]

are they gona send turkish army for another "peace operation" and take half of germany now?

Well I suppose thats one way of getting in to the EU

Bill

[RAFAELLA]

I wonder if the same tragic incident was happening in Tr with Gr victims would they allowed a Gr investigation team to make their own investigations? ...or if this incident taking place in occupied Cy with victims Gcs enclaves, would they allow a CyR invastigation team?

I won't go far. Gcs enclaves have been murder or tortured by Tr settlers or Tr "police" in Rizokarpaso. But noone of those murderers faced the "law".
http://www2.cytanet.com.cy/cgi-bin/bann ... paso/&qry=
Click EISODOS then ENGLISH on the right and scroll down to MURDERS on the left.

I didn't see any sensitivity for the murder of Isaak & Solomou or any person responsible to be prosecuted.
Solomou's killers were identified using photographic evidence as Kenan Akin and Erdal Haciali Emanet, members of the unrecognised TRNC administration (the first Minister of Agriculture and Natural Resources and the second Chief of Special Forces). Warrants were issued for their arrest by the Cypriot government, along with three other people, Attila Sav, Chief of Police of TRNC, Hasan Kundakci, Lt. Gen. of the TRNC military and Mehmet Karli, Maj. Gen. of the Turkish Army.[4][5]. In October 2004, Kenan Akin, wanted by Interpol for the murder of Solomou, admitted he had pulled the trigger, however he accused the former Turkish Military Commander Halil Sadrazam as the person who gave the order. Sadrazam denied the accusation.[6]. Akin was later arrested in Istanbul not for shooting Solomou but for smuggling. He was however released from the Turkish authorities despite being wanted for murder by Interpol, prompting a question on Turkey's judicial cooperation from the Greek MP Dimitrios Papadimoulis in the European Parliament.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomos_Solomou
In an interview to "Aktuel" (31.Oct. 1996), Kenan Akin said: "Why are you making the killing of a dog sound too important?"

I didn't see any sensitivity for the late Mr Stefanou that the occupation regime let him die helpless after he was brutaly abused.

Now the Tr gov appears to be sensitive, but I guess this happens only when it comes to Trs.

The Turkish government is already much over the top on this matter and can use a polite lesson on respectfully abstaining from meddling in the internal affairs of other countries and on the primacy of the Rule of law.

Medding in the internal affairs of another counry ...that reminds me of another case.
Talk to Trs about ...law!

[BC Numismatics]

Rafaella,the Republic of Ireland is a country that also meddles in the internal affairs of another country.It has been interfering in the internal affairs of Northern Ireland since 1922,when Ireland became an independent Dominion under the name of 'Irish Free State'.

Aidan.

[umit07]

What excessive reactions? As far as I could see it Turkey has done a lot to prevent any excessive reations from taking place.