au revoir and Adieu
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both the Turks and Cypriots who speak Turkish claim they don't want EU, ............ so why not write a letter to EU statting that and at the same time write a letter to UN requesting that all cross points to the south are shut again, then you ca set up your little ferries from Cyrus to Turkey unitntrupted?
Go for it I dare your leadership to tke such stand, like I said before a few months ago I would not had agreed to partition now am open to it, as well as the status quo. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:34 am |
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| humanist wrote: |
both the Turks and Cypriots who speak Turkish claim they don't want EU, ............ so why not write a letter to EU statting that and at the same time write a letter to UN requesting that all cross points to the south are shut again, then you ca set up your little ferries from Cyrus to Turkey unitntrupted?
Go for it I dare your leadership to tke such stand, like I said before a few months ago I would not had agreed to partition now am open to it, as well as the status quo. |
Well at least YOU have realised you've shot yourself in the foot with that one  You will not be getting away with it that easily though friend  |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:27 am |
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| suetoniuspaulinus |
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| humanist wrote: |
both the Turks and Cypriots who speak Turkish claim they don't want EU, ............ so why not write a letter to EU statting that and at the same time write a letter to UN requesting that all cross points to the south are shut again, then you ca set up your little ferries from Cyrus to Turkey unitntrupted?
Go for it I dare your leadership to tke such stand, like I said before a few months ago I would not had agreed to partition now am open to it, as well as the status quo. |
It is encouraging to note that some GC members of this forum are already accepting what will, no doubt, be a reality soon. An internationally recognised TRNC. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:17 am |
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| kurupetos wrote: |
Then move back to Turkey. Cyprus is part of the EU.  |
Kurupetos,Eric Dayi is a scummy Turk who is living in London.I've told him that the Hell-bound Irish Roman Catholics would welcome subhuman racists like him with open arms.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:40 am |
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Zan,
you are absolutely correct. There was a chance for reconciliation and the Greek Cypriots shot it down, coming up with a dozen lame excuses as to why they did so. They are to blame for the final partition of the island. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:43 am |
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| Expatkiwi wrote: |
Zan,
you are absolutely correct. There was a chance for reconciliation and the Greek Cypriots shot it down, coming up with a dozen lame excuses as to why they did so. They are to blame for the final partition of the island. |
Are your effering to the Annan Plan? Have you heard lame excuses as to why it was rejected? |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:45 am |
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DT,
Both sides had to make sacrifices. You can't have it both ways. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:48 am |
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| Expatkiwi wrote: |
DT,
Both sides had to make sacrifices. You can't have it both ways. |
Have you read the annan plan? DO you have any idea why it was rejected by us? Would you like me to explain to you? |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:51 am |
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| The Annan plan was rejected by the GC's obstensively because it would have allowed some settlers to remain, and a small number of Turkish forces to remain as a proper protective force, while at the same time restricting to a degree the number of Greek refugees returning to their homes. However, the Turkish Cypriot state would have had to cede Maras/Varosha, Morphou, Erenkoy/Kokkina, and other parts of territory to the Greek Cypriot state. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:05 am |
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| Expatkiwi wrote: |
| The Annan plan was rejected by the GC's obstensively because it would have allowed some settlers to remain, and a small number of Turkish forces to remain as a proper protective force, while at the same time restricting to a degree the number of Greek refugees returning to their homes. However, the Turkish Cypriot state would have had to cede Maras/Varosha, Morphou, Erenkoy/Kokkina, and other parts of territory to the Greek Cypriot state. |
ALso Cypriots would be only EU citizens who don't enjoy full property and settlement rights.
Plan dissolved ROC and replaced it with a confederation of 2 statelets. Further intervention by turkey would create a status of 2 independant states.
This was a confederation not a federation. Central authority stemmed from the 2 statelets not the central govt.
The executive, legislative and judicial were problematic and undemocratic. The final vote if anything went to the judicial would be cast by foreigners,
GC's would foot the bill for Turkey's invasion!!!!!
Settlers legitimised and no further central govt control over immigration. TC statelet would basically allow anyone it likes to come over. Repatriation of settlers would be paid for by the GC's. Who the HELL BROUGHT THEM HERE ANYWAY???
Cyprus would be demilitarised while turkey would hold a right of intervention even into the GC statelet.
At Turkey’s request, Kofi Annan canceled the Cypriot ratification of the 1936 Montreux Treaty and acknowledged that Turkey questions other legal agreements concerning the continental shelf of Cyprus (economic agreement with Egypt). The reason is to be found in the prospect for gas and oil in the Cypriot continental shelf.
Turkish troops would remain even after Turkey joins the EU.
The GC's would have trust turkey that they would follow the handover of land over the years. Turkey's gains on the other hand are completed over 24 hours.
and NO. I do not accept that 18% of the population should have a revolving presidency.
I apologise if these reasons are lame to you Expat
BASICALLY THE TC'S WOULD BECOME A MASTER IN THE NORTH AND A PARTNER IN THE SOUTH.
Reading this someone would be fooled into saying that the GC community probably only makes up 0.6% of the population. |
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