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| Expatkiwi wrote: |
| Unfortunately, Aidan, the people living in TRNC think that they live in their own country. |
Dean,they're not living in their own country,but they are living in a braindead pipedream though!
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| BC Numismatics wrote: |
| Expatkiwi wrote: |
| Unfortunately, Aidan, the people living in TRNC think that they live in their own country. |
Dean,they're not living in their own country,but they are living in a braindead pipedream though!
Aidan. |
It may be a "pipedream" according to you, but most have a good standard of living, peace, freedom and security that was sadly lacking before. I have lived here for 6 years now and have many TC friends who would never want things to be the way they were. Voting yes to the Annan plan was to be the start of a new beginning and this was rejected by the South. TC's are not frozen in time from that point - life - THEIR lives go on and on and why not?
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| tessintrnc wrote: |
| BC Numismatics wrote: |
| Expatkiwi wrote: |
| Unfortunately, Aidan, the people living in TRNC think that they live in their own country. |
Dean,they're not living in their own country,but they are living in a braindead pipedream though!
Aidan. |
It may be a "pipedream" according to you, but most have a good standard of living, peace, freedom and security that was sadly lacking before. I have lived here for 6 years now and have many TC friends who would never want things to be the way they were. Voting yes to the Annan plan was to be the start of a new beginning and this was rejected by the South. TC's are not frozen in time from that point - life - THEIR lives go on and on and why not?
Tess |
I'm glad to hear that. The country will prevail as long as there is hope, and evidentally, it is still there. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:05 am |
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The 'TRNC' will never gain international recognition.It is like the European equivilant of the Bantustans - established & recognised only by the establishing state,in this case,Turkey.The Bantustans (Bophuthatswana,Ciskei,Transkei,& Venda) were all established & recognised only by South Africa right up until their reincorporation back into South Africa in April 1994.
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| BC Numismatics wrote: |
The 'TRNC' will never gain international recognition.It is like the European equivilant of the Bantustans - established & recognised only by the establishing state,in this case,Turkey.The Bantustans (Bophuthatswana,Ciskei,Transkei,& Venda) were all established & recognised only by South Africa right up until their reincorporation back into South Africa in April 1994.
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Aidan, I know all about those states. I visited South Africa in 1987, and I did go to Bophuthatswana (Thaba n'chu and Sun City). However, TRNC has something that Bophuthatswana, Transkei, Ciskei, and Venda lacked: a ligitimately elected government. Unlike the Bantustans, the TRNC government is elected by the vast majority of registered voters in the TRNC. That gives it a ligitimate represented voice for the Turkish Cypriot people. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:14 am |
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Dean,the 'TRNC' is an illegal entity.It is as legal as Transdniester is - illegally established on the territory of a legitimate country.In Transdniester's case,it is located in Moldova.Transdniester has its own currency - 100 Kopecks = 1 Transdniesteran Rouble.
Unlike the 'TRNC',the 4 Bantustans had their own independent numismatic history.I've got a few postal orders from these 4 dead countries.
The legal currency of northern Cyprus is the Euro,not the Turkish Lira.
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| Recognition will come in time, we are not talking 2 weeks or 2 years or 10 years but in the long run the problem will cease being a problem and stand as a compensatory issue where the offspring of the GC refugees who can hardly remember what all the fuss was about wil take the money. |
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| Expatkiwi wrote: |
| BC Numismatics wrote: |
The 'TRNC' will never gain international recognition.It is like the European equivilant of the Bantustans - established & recognised only by the establishing state,in this case,Turkey.The Bantustans (Bophuthatswana,Ciskei,Transkei,& Venda) were all established & recognised only by South Africa right up until their reincorporation back into South Africa in April 1994.
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Aidan, I know all about those states. I visited South Africa in 1987, and I did go to Bophuthatswana (Thaba n'chu and Sun City). However, TRNC has something that Bophuthatswana, Transkei, Ciskei, and Venda lacked: a ligitimately elected government. Unlike the Bantustans, the TRNC government is elected by the vast majority of registered voters in the TRNC. That gives it a ligitimate represented voice for the Turkish Cypriot people. |
sure, its represenative of the population, everytime someone without the blessing of Ankara tries to get to power Ankara only needs to "amend"the population by introducing a few thousand more "voting" settlers and Bob's your uncle. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:18 am |
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| DT. wrote: |
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| BC Numismatics wrote: |
The 'TRNC' will never gain international recognition.It is like the European equivilant of the Bantustans - established & recognised only by the establishing state,in this case,Turkey.The Bantustans (Bophuthatswana,Ciskei,Transkei,& Venda) were all established & recognised only by South Africa right up until their reincorporation back into South Africa in April 1994.
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Aidan, I know all about those states. I visited South Africa in 1987, and I did go to Bophuthatswana (Thaba n'chu and Sun City). However, TRNC has something that Bophuthatswana, Transkei, Ciskei, and Venda lacked: a ligitimately elected government. Unlike the Bantustans, the TRNC government is elected by the vast majority of registered voters in the TRNC. That gives it a ligitimate represented voice for the Turkish Cypriot people. |
sure, its represenative of the population, everytime someone without the blessing of Ankara tries to get to power Ankara only needs to "amend"the population by introducing a few thousand more "voting" settlers and Bob's your uncle. |
So? DT thats the dynamics of the beast when you are economically held hostage by an aggresive GC community who policies have always been to keep us wanting a solution by keeping us isolated. |
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| Viewpoint wrote: |
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| Expatkiwi wrote: |
| BC Numismatics wrote: |
The 'TRNC' will never gain international recognition.It is like the European equivilant of the Bantustans - established & recognised only by the establishing state,in this case,Turkey.The Bantustans (Bophuthatswana,Ciskei,Transkei,& Venda) were all established & recognised only by South Africa right up until their reincorporation back into South Africa in April 1994.
Aidan. |
Aidan, I know all about those states. I visited South Africa in 1987, and I did go to Bophuthatswana (Thaba n'chu and Sun City). However, TRNC has something that Bophuthatswana, Transkei, Ciskei, and Venda lacked: a ligitimately elected government. Unlike the Bantustans, the TRNC government is elected by the vast majority of registered voters in the TRNC. That gives it a ligitimate represented voice for the Turkish Cypriot people. |
sure, its represenative of the population, everytime someone without the blessing of Ankara tries to get to power Ankara only needs to "amend"the population by introducing a few thousand more "voting" settlers and Bob's your uncle. |
So? DT thats the dynamics of the beast when you are economically held hostage by an aggresive GC community who policies have always been to keep us wanting a solution by keeping us isolated. |
you've never been held hostage. You are free to trade through the legitimate ports of this country. Your football teams are even free to join in on EUropea competitions if they're good enough if they apply via the CFA.
You isolation is your own doing and is politically motivated. Had it been a humanitarian plight then your options are clear and there for you to utilise. |
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