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Postby cannedmoose » Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:27 pm

michalis5354 wrote:Piratis even Denktash says the same things with you ! Denktash also is strongly against the Plan !


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Postby Piratis » Thu Apr 08, 2004 6:33 pm

Piratis even Denktash says the same things with you ! Denktash also is strongly against the Plan !


Michalis and cannedmoose, if me and a friend of mine come to your house beat you up and then tie you on a chair and then this friend of mine suggests to rape your mother/wife/sister. Would you agree with that? Of course you will not. But say I don't agree with him either, because I don't want to rape her but I want to kill her instead.
Does it mean that because we both disagree with my friend that we "are the same"?

I didn't bother to reply to Michalis initially because I don't want to waste my time with arguments that only a 5 year old could make.
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Postby michalis5354 » Thu Apr 08, 2004 9:21 pm

How could your example answer to what I have writen above ? .

I will tell again here that dreaming for something impossible it is just a Fantasy and will never happen. I mean dreaming for the Perfect solution in cyprus this will never happen I am 100% sure for that.
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Postby Piratis » Thu Apr 08, 2004 9:44 pm

Nobody is dreaming. Nobody said about a perfect solution.
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dear piratis... read more PLEASE !!!

Postby unreal » Sun Apr 18, 2004 11:34 pm

Dear Piratis,

Basicly from what I read from this forum, I can only judge that you have not read the ANAN Plan well, and you are well to mis-informed about what you are gonna vote. I will tell you something.
What do you thing that a a YES is gonna cost financialy to each Cypriot. You make the math and then let me know. If you calculate that we will be givving them 60.000.000 pound a year, without army, minysty of foreign affairs, etc, etc, Whatever is left devite by people in Cyprus, you will be getting a sum of less than 100 pounds per person per year. But of course if you also calculate, all the tourist that will be again be attracted to Cyprus, and so on, then do your math again. But then Also, the Security of The Cypriots matters for me the most. Unfortunately I cannot trust the T/C that they will return all the we aggred and So I am possibly gonna vote for a NO. BUT!!!! I am waiting to hear from All the great countries that so much wanna get this problem solved, that they GUARANTEE that the agreement will be fullfiled as said. If that happens. Then I will gladly sign for a YES to the Cyprus Matter.
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Postby mehmet » Mon Apr 19, 2004 2:12 am

The Turkish Cypriots are not in a position to keep or return territory. That is within the prerogative of Turkey. The motivation for Turkey is to win favour in Europe to bring entry to EU closer. Backtracking can work both ways and that is the risk both communities need to take, there is no guarantee about the future. What is the guarantee to Turkish Cypriots that Greek Cypriot police and soldiers wont treat them like the enemy. You have to trust if you want to gamble for unity, if you don't want to gamble you can have separation for longer, it's your choice.
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Postby michalis5354 » Mon Apr 19, 2004 1:30 pm

The only vote to benefit Cyprus as a whole it is the YES vote ! A No vote will permanently divide the island for good.
Turkishcypriots will have an independent recognised state in North and the Greekcypriots will have an independent recognised state in South .

Then If you are happy for that then Vote NO . Turkey and military will not loose anything This was their vision for a long time ago. Turkey will join EU without Settlement of Cyprus . Greece supported Turkeys membership even without settlement of Cyprus.

Then Vote NO and divide the island for good ! Probably Papdopoulos and Turkeys Military are in strong agreement !
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