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Should Nicosia be a Federal zone?

Propose and discuss specific solutions to aspects of the Cyprus Problem

Would you accept this proposal for a Federal Zone?

I am a GC and I would accept it.
3
17%
I am a GC and I would reject it.
2
11%
I am a GC and I am not sure.
4
22%
I am a TC and I would accept it.
5
28%
I am a TC and I would reject it.
4
22%
I am a TC and I am not sure.
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No votes
 
Total votes : 18

Should Nicosia be a Federal zone?

Postby Alexandros Lordos » Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:59 pm

Often in this forum, we have discussed the possibility of applying "the belgian model" to a possible Cyprus settlement. The central element of the Belgian model is that brussels is a Federal zone, as opposed to being a part of one of the constituent states. Could the same thing be done with Nicosia, in the context of a Cyprus settlement?

I've been giving this some thought for some time now, and here is the proposal I come up with:

Geographical area:

GCCS - Southern part of the island, with a boundary running through Morphou and Famagusta, and passing just south of Nicosia
Federal Zone - Metropolitan Nicosia, suburbs included.
TCCS - Northern part of the island, with a boundary running through Morphou and Famagusta, and passing just north of Nicosia

Population:

GCCS - 400,000
Federal Zone - 300,000
TCCS - 100,000

Residence rights:

GCCS - No more than 25% TCs
Federal Zone - No restrictions
TCCS - No more than 25% GCs

Federal Senate Representatives:

GCCS - 16 Senators
Federal Zone - 16 Senators
TCCS - 16 Senators

Federal House of Deputies representatives:

GCCS - proportional to population
Federal Zone - proportional to population
TCCS - proportional to population

Federal Presidential Council representatives:

GCCS - 2 members
Federal Zone - 2 members
TCCS - 2 members

Federal Supreme Court representatives:

GCCS - 2 judges
Federal Zone - 2 judges
TCCS - 2 judges

Executive authority:

GCCS - GCCS Governor
Federal Zone - Federal Presidential Council
TCCS - TCCS Governor

Legislative authority:

GCCS - GCCS Parliament
Federal Zone: Federal Parliament
TCCS - TCCS Parliament

Judicial authority:

GCCS - GCCS Supreme Court
Federal Zone - Federal Supreme Court
TCCS - TCCS Supreme Court

Official Languages:

GCCS - Greek
Federal Zone - Greek and Turkish
TCCS - Turkish

Capital City:

GCCS - Limassol
Federal Zone - Nicosia (Federal Capital)
TCCS - Girne/Kyrenia


How does all this sound? ...
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Postby brother » Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:23 pm

Just on the language side of things i do not see the need for a one side turkish and one side greek and the middle both, it should be both languages all over the island.

ARE WE TRYING TO HARD AND COMPROMISING TO MUCH TO THE POINT THAT WE WILL BECOME A TIT FOR TAT COUNTRY.
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Postby Alexandros Lordos » Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:27 pm

brother wrote:ARE WE TRYING TOO HARD AND COMPROMISING TOO MUCH TO THE POINT THAT WE WILL BECOME A TIT FOR TAT COUNTRY.


A thought provoking sentiment ... :?
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Postby magikthrill » Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:48 am

Limassol the capital of the south?!!?!?!?

Out of ALL the things that I disagree with I think that's the one I like the least!!!

EIther way It's fine. In the end it's probably the best deal GCs will be able to get since the final solution will most likely be a disguised partition on the likes of the Annan plan.
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Postby Alexandros Lordos » Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:39 pm

magikthrill wrote:Limassol the capital of the south?!!?!?!?

Out of ALL the things that I disagree with I think that's the one I like the least!!!


Magikthrill, what else do you disagee with? And what's wrong with having Limassol as the capital? :)

Seriously, I believe it would be good to "decentralise" the administration in this manner, instead of having three governments (Federal, GCCS and TCCS) in Nicosia. Just imagine, every Nicosian would be a civil servant! It would be like Athens in Greece, where one city has grown out of all proportion and the rest of the country is just ... villages!
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Postby Alexandros Lordos » Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:41 pm

Why are no GCs voting in these polls? :(
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Postby Kifeas » Sat Apr 09, 2005 3:52 pm

Alexandros Lordos wrote:Often in this forum, we have discussed the possibility of applying "the belgian model" to a possible Cyprus settlement. The central element of the Belgian model is that brussels is a Federal zone, as opposed to being a part of one of the constituent states. Could the same thing be done with Nicosia, in the context of a Cyprus settlement?


Dear Alexandros,
As an idea it sounds quite good. We need however to keep in mind that the entire population of Cyprus is probably equal to one or two suburbs of Brussels, set aside Belgium as a whole. Ideally, what I believe we need in Cyprus is a fairly logical, flexible and economically viable political arrangement, taking into consideration the size of our population and the means to sustain any political system from an economic point of view. As I said, the above idea sounds good and interesting. From a Greek Cypriot point of view it is much better than the provisions of Anan plan. It also provides a testing framework (the federal zone) in which the two communities can function jointly and experience the benefits of an unrestricted bi-communal environment. Furthermore, it holds the country more strongly together and diminishes the potential of a new split, which as A-plan was defined, could most likely have been the end result, any time in the near future.

In view however of the well known approach that many TCs maintain towards the permanent ethnic separation of the people of Cyprus, I wonder if they could possible accept such a proposal or anything, anywhere near it. Personally, I am very disappointed by this approach that most Turkish Cypriots insist to have on this issue of "ethnic" political equality.
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Postby -mikkie2- » Sat Apr 09, 2005 6:01 pm

How does all this sound? ...


Too expensive, cumbersome and beurocratic in my opinion.
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Postby pantelis » Sat Apr 09, 2005 8:32 pm

We have discussed something similar, a couple of years ago. I suggested to open Famagusta to young G&TCs, under the UN at first and then under a common city council.
I am still loooking for the link, from that discussion.......
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Postby Piratis » Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:45 pm

Limassol the capital of the south?!!?!?!?

Out of ALL the things that I disagree with I think that's the one I like the least!!!


I think Limassol should become the capital in any kind of solution :wink: 8)
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