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George Papandreou supporting strongly the UN Plan

Postby michalis5354 » Wed Apr 07, 2004 5:35 pm

I have just read on paper that George Papandreou the ex minister of foreign Affairs of Greece and his party PASOK are strongly supporting the UN plan and is advising the Greekcypriots to vote for the plan. Not only that But also both the two big parties AKEL and DUSI are going to support the UN plan and both are expected to advise the GCs to vote Yes to the UN PLan.

Also Glafkos Kleridis also supported a YES vote for the UN plan.

G.Ferhoygen advising also the Greekcypriot to vote Yes for the plan because firstly this is for the long term interest of Cyprus and secondly in such a way it will provide an example on how different communities can live together in peace and propserity.
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Postby Piratis » Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:26 pm

Have a look at an interesting online poll at http://www.typos.com.cy/.

Although these online polls are not precise, you can get the idea:

In the question "Who's opinion you will listen to take your decision" only 12% said that they will listen to political parties while 62% said that they will listen to the president.
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Tassos+Rauf=Oxi. Glafcos=Nai (which President to choose?)

Postby cannedmoose » Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:34 pm

Piratis wrote:In the question "Who's opinion you will listen to take your decision" only 12% said that they will listen to political parties while 62% said that they will listen to the president.


Papadopoulos was wrong to use his office to urge a vote either way. It was fine for him to say on one hand that Cypriots should use their individual conscience in voting but to say at the end of the speech (the section that resonated hardest with most people, at least for me it did) that he advocated a strong "no" was no the right move.

Effectively, in the event of a "no" vote, Tassos has made himself the bad guy and will be viewed as such in the corridors of power elsewhere in Europe. Thus, he could well find himself persona non grata as Cyprus enters the EU - not a very auspicious start I'm sure you'll agree.

I would more likely consider the more experienced views of Clerides who has sided with the "yes" camp. Tassos may be President but this doesn't necessarily make him the Oracle.
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Postby Piratis » Thu Apr 08, 2004 6:41 pm

I would more likely consider the more experienced views of Clerides


You are free to have your opinion. Clerides lost the elections. Papadopoulos was (by winning the elections) and remain (according to all polls) the leader that the majority of Greek Cypriots support.

The majority of Greek Cypriots agree with him.
I am sure for you a leader should do what the foreigners tell him and not what his people want him to do. In Democracy (greek word meaning that "people rule") the people are the ones who decide, and not some foreigners, about its own future.
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Postby michalis5354 » Thu Apr 08, 2004 9:02 pm

Papadopoulos is not a leader that anyone can trust. His Vision is based in the last century and this man in noway can guide the whole island forward and especially in EU.

He has been elected mainly based on the Votes of the AKEL party and If AKEL has not supported him He would never be a president now. AKEL supports strongly the UN Plan and Papadopoulos and AKEL now are in opposite directions.

Most people are still undecicided and the polls that are published are not a reflection of the publics view.

A NO Vote will benefit highly Turkey and I am so supprised that so many GCs are supporting Turksih Military policies.
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Postby Piratis » Thu Apr 08, 2004 9:15 pm

Papadopoulos is not a leader that anyone can trust.


Why don't you just say that you can not trust him and keep it there? Show some respect to democracy!

Most people are still undecicided and the polls that are published are not a reflection of the publics view.


I guess you know better than the 10s of polls then. Ok.
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Postby michalis5354 » Thu Apr 08, 2004 9:37 pm

Klerides was in power for 10 years , which means that Greekcypriots were trusting him for 10 years , If we are going to speak about democracy. Being in power for 10 years anyone could have expected his opinion to be highly appreciated and valued !

Although Klerides was quite Old he was a very wise and rational man .

So What If most people are supporting Papadopoulos actions. Most people may be misinformed which is very Likely given the information that are published in media which in no way I can consider Objective.

It is very funny actually how even the church are struggling to influence public opinion. And saying that The plan is not functional while we are all aware about the fraud and corruption in churge administration.

Do not forget also that most people tend to be emotional who can easily be mislead by wrong information and propaganda and which this is the case most of the times.

Why no Objective Analysis has been published to stress the huge benefits of the plan ? How can you explain that ? People can be easily manipulated and mislead especially If a weak and corrupt leader is in power.
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Postby Piratis » Thu Apr 08, 2004 9:40 pm

So What If most people are supporting Papadopoulos actions


no comment. :roll:
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