Windsurfing in North Cyprus
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The only international airports in Cyprus that can be used to legally enter the island are those of Larnaca and Paphos.
The Republic of Cyprus determines which are the international airports on its own territory, and not anybody else. The north part of Cyprus is a Republic of Cyprus territory. The Turks are only illegally occupying this territory and are not in the position to designate international airports on any part of the territory of our country. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:24 pm |
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| It does not make Ercan an "illegal" airport. |
The facility you call “Ercan” is ILLEGAL as well as any other facility not approved by the rightful government of Cyprus. Why? Because the RoC says so!
There are no ifs, and no buts! |
Very good to read Get Real and Piratis' last post confirming that the question of legality or otherwise of port of entry is a matter of domestic law, not international law. |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:23 am |
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| CopperLine wrote: |
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| vaughanwilliams wrote: |
| It does not make Ercan an "illegal" airport. |
The facility you call “Ercan” is ILLEGAL as well as any other facility not approved by the rightful government of Cyprus. Why? Because the RoC says so!
There are no ifs, and no buts! |
Very good to read Get Real and Piratis' last post confirming that the question of legality or otherwise of port of entry is a matter of domestic law, not international law. |
Incorrect!
The “TRNC” has been declared ILLEGAL by the UN in accordance with UN resolution 541 and cannot therefore ever be admitted to the International Civil Aviation Organization, thus rendering the purported “international airport” ILLEGAL!
In the UN’s own words…
“…the attempt to create a "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus" is invalid”
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm
Ercan is a clandestine airport, both nationally and internationally. |
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Last edited by Get Real! on Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:23 am; edited 1 time in total |
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| Re: Windsurfing in North Cyprus | |
| Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:23 am |
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| CopperLine wrote: |
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Salute from Prague.
Could someone share any info about windsurfing in North Cyprus?
Are there clubs or special beaches?
Internet links?
In wich hotels I can rent equipment?
Regards,
Victor. |
Hello Wisler,
If you are going to visit the northern parts of Cyprus, be sure to enter Cyprus from either Larnaca or Pafos International Airports as Ercan is an illegal port of entry as deemed by the United Nations and the International Community. I believe there are direct flights from Prague to Larnaca.
The wind surfing on offer in the southern parts (Non Occupied areas) are with out doubt better than what is on offer in the northern parts (Occupied Areas).  |
Wisler,
Be cautious about advice you get on this forum. For example, Paphitis comments on the quality of windsurfing in northern Cyprus as if he knows: but Paphitis has told the forum previously that he's never been to northern Cyprus let alone windsurfed. Second he says that travelling via Ercan is a breach of international law : it is not, he's just making it up to scare you.
Go north or south as you wish and on the basis of reliable windsurfing advice. Wherever you go, have a good holiday. |
Please acquaint yourself with the Chicago Convention.
http://www.icao.int/icaonet/arch/doc/7300/7300_9ed.pdf
The RoC has the sovereign right to declare legal ports of entry. It is clearly stipulated. Ergo, the mere operation of ERCAN is a violation against the ICAO Chicago Convention which has been ratified by some 180+ nations. This is why there are no direct flights, and can never be direct flights unless something drastic happens whereby the UN Security Council vote to recognise (extremely unlikely) the 'trnc' which will take away the RoC's sovereign rights pertaining to ERCAN.
Where did I say that I have never been to the "trnc"? I have been a few times, but respect those that do not go as a matter of principle.
Why do you make things up? |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:24 am |
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| Paphitis wrote: |
| Why do you make things up? |
Because he's an idiot. |
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| Get Real! wrote: |
| CopperLine wrote: |
| Get Real! wrote: |
| vaughanwilliams wrote: |
| It does not make Ercan an "illegal" airport. |
The facility you call “Ercan” is ILLEGAL as well as any other facility not approved by the rightful government of Cyprus. Why? Because the RoC says so!
There are no ifs, and no buts! |
Very good to read Get Real and Piratis' last post confirming that the question of legality or otherwise of port of entry is a matter of domestic law, not international law. |
Incorrect!
The “TRNC” has been declared ILLEGAL by the UN in accordance with UN resolution 541 and cannot therefore ever be admitted to the International Civil Aviation Organization, thus rendering the purported “international airport” ILLEGAL!
In the UN’s own words…
“…the attempt to create a "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus" is invalid”
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm
Ercan is a clandestine airport, both nationally and internationally. |
Incorrect!
The TRNC has been declared "legally invalid" which is NOT the same as illegal.
Legally invalid refers to non-recognition, illegal refers to something which is against a law.
Don't interpret the wording to suit your argument. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:15 pm |
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| Back on thread, during July 20th celebrations saw some kite-surfers hurtling down the coast from Lapta way towards Kyrenia. They spent almost as much time in the air as on the water. It looked fantastic but definately a sport for a younger man than me. |
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| Get Real! wrote: |
| CopperLine wrote: |
| Get Real! wrote: |
| vaughanwilliams wrote: |
| It does not make Ercan an "illegal" airport. |
The facility you call “Ercan” is ILLEGAL as well as any other facility not approved by the rightful government of Cyprus. Why? Because the RoC says so!
There are no ifs, and no buts! |
Very good to read Get Real and Piratis' last post confirming that the question of legality or otherwise of port of entry is a matter of domestic law, not international law. |
Incorrect!
The “TRNC” has been declared ILLEGAL by the UN in accordance with UN resolution 541 and cannot therefore ever be admitted to the International Civil Aviation Organization, thus rendering the purported “international airport” ILLEGAL!
In the UN’s own words…
“…the attempt to create a "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus" is invalid”
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm
Ercan is a clandestine airport, both nationally and internationally. |
Do you have domestic flights in south cyprus? How long does it take to fly from larnaca to limassol, 5 minutes?  |
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| runaway wrote: |
| Get Real! wrote: |
| CopperLine wrote: |
| Get Real! wrote: |
| vaughanwilliams wrote: |
| It does not make Ercan an "illegal" airport. |
The facility you call “Ercan” is ILLEGAL as well as any other facility not approved by the rightful government of Cyprus. Why? Because the RoC says so!
There are no ifs, and no buts! |
Very good to read Get Real and Piratis' last post confirming that the question of legality or otherwise of port of entry is a matter of domestic law, not international law. |
Incorrect!
The “TRNC” has been declared ILLEGAL by the UN in accordance with UN resolution 541 and cannot therefore ever be admitted to the International Civil Aviation Organization, thus rendering the purported “international airport” ILLEGAL!
In the UN’s own words…
“…the attempt to create a "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus" is invalid”
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm
Ercan is a clandestine airport, both nationally and internationally. |
Do you have domestic flights in south cyprus? How long does it take to fly from larnaca to limassol, 5 minutes? |
As anyone of reasonable intelligence would know, there is no airport in Limassol, but there are frequently flights between Larnaca and Paphos |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:06 pm |
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| vaughanwilliams wrote: |
The TRNC has been declared "legally invalid" which is NOT the same as illegal.
Legally invalid refers to non-recognition, illegal refers to something which is against a law.
Don't interpret the wording to suit your argument. |
Definition of "invalid":
": not valid: a : being without foundation or force in fact, truth, or law"
http://east.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/invalid
in·val·id 2 (n-vld)
adj.
1. Not legally or factually valid; null: an invalid license.
2. Falsely based or reasoned; faulty:"
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/invalid
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