Property Protest London during President Christofias’ visit
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| Clive |
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Hi Conor
I have also been affected by the corruption of the authorities in Cyprus including a lawyer and the police to the tune of lengthy court cases and the loss of thousands of pounds. My issue was not to do with property, but nevertheless I know what you are going through. Unfortunately I cannot be at Alexandra Palace on Sunday but wish you and your family and everyone else battling with the lack of justice system in Cyprus the very best of luck. Clive |
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:30 pm |
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| Clive wrote: |
Hi Conor
I have also been affected by the corruption of the authorities in Cyprus including a lawyer and the police to the tune of lengthy court cases and the loss of thousands of pounds. My issue was not to do with property, but nevertheless I know what you are going through. Unfortunately I cannot be at Alexandra Palace on Sunday but wish you and your family and everyone else battling with the lack of justice system in Cyprus the very best of luck. Clive |
Hi Clive
Sorry to hear of your past troubles with the corrupt Authorities.
Thanks for your support.
Anything you can do to spread the word would be fantastic.
Unfortunately the Greek written Cypriot press have again not picked up on our plight or other expats suffering at the hands of the legal system. In our opinion the Greek Cypriot media is censored. If they are not censored then they are racists or cowards. We are neither!
To sidetrack this roadblock I have composed an email that is being past around to publicize this event. If you or anyone else would like a copy please PM me with your email details.
Every Cypriot we have met not connected to the property industry is SHOCKED at our treatment as they had never heard of our plight.
Thanks again for sending your best.
Conor |
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:53 pm |
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| Rest assured Conor, I am spreading the word as fast as I can. I also have many English Cypriot friends who are routing for you; they know what you're up against. I'll pm you. clive |
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 6:41 pm |
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Hello Clive
I as an expat going through the same hell as Conor would also like to add my thanks to you for your support. We have, as it stands, lost cyp£108,000 and are awaiting a court date.
I should like to thank all for their support on Sunday. If any of your relatives can attend please i beg them to do so.
Again thanks
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| Karayiannas just posted this on another forum. | |
| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:28 pm |
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This was posted on another forum and below is my response
| robertklein wrote: |
Visit the following link to download and read the COURT EXLUSIVE AFFIDAVIT of Marios Karayiannas, that has been WITNESSED by the Department of the UK Sovereign Base Areas - SBA Court in Dhekelia, Cyprus.
http://www.karayiannas.com.cy/page.php |
I'll post your statement on the other forums for you. No need to make up any more accounts.
I think this is an immediate reaction to what's in this article.
http://www.thelondondailynews.com/cypriot-developer-charged-with-p-629.html
I've only skimmed the document but I already have to inform you Marios that your pants are on fire.
The statement has about as much credibility as the membership logos you displayed on your website had. You were not members you're a liar born and bred.
Has it not sunk in yet that one day you will have to stand up in a law court and show proof of these paragraphs which are absolute bunk!. Putting a stamp on something doesn't make it true and will not take the heat off you this weekend or at future demonstrations. I'm not intimidated by you and will continue to defend my right to free speech. LB.com is my true story of buying property in Cyprus. As I said to Fotos Pittadjis "you picked on the wrong idiot"
You will be investigated eventually. As the article above shows your friends list will have to reach some high up places.
I'm too busy in London at the moment to pull your statement apart now. Thanks for the extra footage which will all help to seal your fate as a Lying Builder.
If whoever represents you now is sending this by post please do so on soft paper so I can wipe my ar*e with it.
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:10 pm |
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On reading the statement the penny dropped.
In my opinion the only reason to spew out this publication at the moment is that it’s being sent to London to try and take my website down (Again!). Are they having extra encouragement to do this at the moment I wonder?
As I keep saying I will vehemently defend my freedom of speech. I won’t burden myself with further costs and I won’t lose any sleep but thanks for the heads up anyway. Any interruption will be temporary. Print that out and attach as well.
Cyprus has already violated my Human Rights on Article 17 (Right to Property) Article 38 (Consumer Protection) Article 41 (Right to Good Administration) Yesterday I sent my case to 22 MEP’s for Europe and the responses are coming in.
"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."
Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto after his attack on Pearl Harbor
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Conor, not wishing to appear as a prophet of doom (although your complaint does have all the hallmarks of misfortune) I cannot but help thinking that your case took a serious down-turn when you resorted to insult and abuse in the early stages of negotiations..
Cypriot people do not take kindly to such behaviour, particularly when their families become the target of such affront, nor do the courts (whether in Cyprus or elsewhere).
Your web-site may also prove to be something of a liability in your quest for justice since it would appear to be something of an overall condemnation of ALL speculators and developers, notwithstanding the fact that you also make disparaging remarks about the Legal profession and the Judiciary.
You may well see your campaign as a means to save others from experiencing similar difficulties to your own (and that is commendable) but do not assume that because of the support you are receiving you are strengthening your case, in fact, you may even be weakening it.
Street protests and rallies have failed miserably in dealing with greater issues than you have highlighted, I would urge caution rather than such degrees of optimism you have and are displaying.
The actual case of GBH will be dealt with as a seperate issue and you may well have the satisfaction of seeing the perpetrators punished for their actions, I doubt if the outcome of that case will significantly influence judgement on the major issue.
Realizing that you will not receive my views with much favour, I would like to conclude by saying that I do wish you well in your quest for justice, although I do feel that you may well have compromised the strength of your action by resorting to insult in the first instance, I do wonder if, at this late stage, abject apologies might be a surer route in ensuring satisfaction than a contest in court. |
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:25 pm |
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| Eliko wrote: |
Conor, not wishing to appear as a prophet of doom (although your complaint does have all the hallmarks of misfortune) I cannot but help thinking that your case took a serious down-turn when you resorted to insult and abuse in the early stages of negotiations..
Cypriot people do not take kindly to such behaviour, particularly when their families become the target of such affront, nor do the courts (whether in Cyprus or elsewhere).
Your web-site may also prove to be something of a liability in your quest for justice since it would appear to be something of an overall condemnation of ALL speculators and developers, notwithstanding the fact that you also make disparaging remarks about the Legal profession and the Judiciary.
You may well see your campaign as a means to save others from experiencing similar difficulties to your own (and that is commendable) but do not assume that because of the support you are receiving you are strengthening your case, in fact, you may even be weakening it.
Street protests and rallies have failed miserably in dealing with greater issues than you have highlighted, I would urge caution rather than such degrees of optimism you have and are displaying.
The actual case of GBH will be dealt with as a seperate issue and you may well have the satisfaction of seeing the perpetrators punished for their actions, I doubt if the outcome of that case will significantly influence judgement on the major issue.
Realizing that you will not receive my views with much favour, I would like to conclude by saying that I do wish you well in your quest for justice, although I do feel that you may well have compromised the strength of your action by resorting to insult in the first instance, I do wonder if, at this late stage, abject apologies might be a surer route in ensuring satisfaction than a contest in court. |
Hi Eliko,
Thanks for your comment. I don't have time for a full response at the moment but I think you are reading the document as a statement of FACTS...its not.
There were no insults from my side in the early stages of negotiation... That didn't come from me until a Year after the FIRST assault. Within that year they had RESOLD my house. Lied to the court. and refused to simply give us back our money.
Its all up on my website in minute detail where I have a comprehensive timeline backed up by evidence (and on YouTube) They have nothing because it's all lies. If you need me to point to specific documents then I will at a later time.
I will just quote these words from another forum. I'm busy preparing for the weekends events so may not have time to respond today. Cheers.
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The court is not saying that this is a true version of events, merely that someone has gone to the court and sworn on oath that this is a true version of events, and the court has witnessed them making this statement.
If the person making the affidavit is later shown to have knowingly said something that is not true in the statement, they can then be charged with perjury (as if they had made such a false statement during court proceedings).
The SBA court administers the SBA area which is much larger than the actual bases see the map at: http://www.sba.mod.uk/admin.htm (click on maps)
There is also a description of the courts activities at this site. |
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 3:29 pm |
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CONOR, in my experience, i think it would better to represent yourself than have a Cypriot lawyer! At least, you'd get things done and without burning your savings.
A lawyer in Cyprus can literally do nothing but still demand payment for the calls and appointments you had trying to push him/her to do something. But some government offices refuse to cooperate with individuals, especially, non-residents, leaving some forced to be represented by a lawyer.
Good luck with your case. Never forget that if you dont get justice in Cyprus, you can now go above, to Europe.
PS What kind of human would get satisfaction from getting his victim on his knees to make an apology!? Not someone Id want to know! |
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 4:36 pm |
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| Conor why didn't you just get your money back and call the whole thing quits? You could have been relaxing in a villa on the beach now instead of all this aggro. |
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