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ECHR: CASE OF SOLOMOU v. TURKEY

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Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:21 am

VP stones and glass houses...

...careful now.
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Postby Kikapu » Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:25 am

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Total and utter crap as usual.

Now apologize for making things up and calling me a paid propagandist which I am not, as I say you make things up and then you believe your own shit, I neither work for the government nor do I own disputed land you have this "image" of me in your brain which is warped because you do not know me and how I live or where I was educated. You really need to analyze your own mental defect as you appear to hallucinate and believe what is not correct, in other words you are crazy.


If you were a man of honour, then your words of denial of being a "paid propagandist" would mean something, therefore it could be respected and a full apology would be in order and forthcoming, but since you are not an honourable person, your denial of being a "paid propagandist" is hardly acceptable means of telling the truth.

Here is something for you to remember.

One's actions speaks louder than their word.!


And you are full of hot air, you use words to manipulate those who follow without question well Im not one of those people so you should apologise for lieing by claiming you were going to prove beyond a doubt that I am a state paid propagandist which I am not, your constant barrage of verbal dihorrea into which you sink deeper and deeper does you no favors as people can clearly read the shit you spout out which only you in turn believe as if it were gospel.


VP,

Im not one of those people so you should apologise


Look for your apology in the "snail mail" via Mersin. It has your name on the envelope, "Viewpoint". It should arrive in the next century.!

claiming you were going to prove beyond a doubt that I am a state paid propagandist


Once again you are not stating the truth. Show me where I accused you of being a "state paid propagandist" or that I was going to "prove anything beyond doubt". As usual, like a paid propagandist, you like to exaggerate the reality in what I've said by adding your version onto it.

However, circumstantial evidence of your "guilt" is all over this forum. That's plenty of proof for me and others. Try acting honourable for change for God sake and lets talk honestly and stop defending murderers. You only have yourself to blame for the position you have put yourself into, by portraying yourself as a "paid propagandist" by defending actions that are indefensible by any standards of International Laws.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:57 pm

Play your favorite game again Kikapu "Judge, Jury and Executioner" you are teying to worm you way out of unfounded accusations you so freely throw around the forum only to find that when challenged what you have been saying is a load of crap. You have proven nothing the things you claim are all in your mind and I have no time nor the desire to deal with your superiority complexes, you are 100% wrong about me and it only proves to me what an idiot you really are.
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Postby Kikapu » Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:33 am

Viewpoint wrote:Play your favorite game again Kikapu "Judge, Jury and Executioner" you are teying to worm you way out of unfounded accusations you so freely throw around the forum only to find that when challenged what you have been saying is a load of crap. You have proven nothing the things you claim are all in your mind and I have no time nor the desire to deal with your superiority complexes, you are 100% wrong about me and it only proves to me what an idiot you really are.


You have not challenged me in anything VP. Most things you say are lies, so by saying that you are not a "paid propagandist" does not absolve you of anything. We have 8,500+ posts from you on this forum that says otherwise.

Now, are you going to condemn these murderers or not??

It will start giving yourself some credibility if you did, and if you don't, well, you know the answer to that too well, don't you.!
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Postby DT. » Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:03 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Play your favorite game again Kikapu "Judge, Jury and Executioner" you are teying to worm you way out of unfounded accusations you so freely throw around the forum only to find that when challenged what you have been saying is a load of crap. You have proven nothing the things you claim are all in your mind and I have no time nor the desire to deal with your superiority complexes, you are 100% wrong about me and it only proves to me what an idiot you really are.


A little like you claiming there are UN resolutions stating a federation of 2 constituent states? I believe you finally accepted you were lying by the 4th pages.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:27 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Play your favorite game again Kikapu "Judge, Jury and Executioner" you are teying to worm you way out of unfounded accusations you so freely throw around the forum only to find that when challenged what you have been saying is a load of crap. You have proven nothing the things you claim are all in your mind and I have no time nor the desire to deal with your superiority complexes, you are 100% wrong about me and it only proves to me what an idiot you really are.


You have not challenged me in anything VP. Most things you say are lies, so by saying that you are not a "paid propagandist" does not absolve you of anything. We have 8,500+ posts from you on this forum that says otherwise.

Now, are you going to condemn these murderers or not??

It will start giving yourself some credibility if you did, and if you don't, well, you know the answer to that too well, don't you.!


Again judge jury and executioner, its become second nature, you threw a load of crap my way about proving im a paid progandist and when I rose to your challenge you spouted out a load of verbal dihorrea which meant nothing. You are obviously derranged I will not yield to your shit.

I have stated many times that these men should be held accountable for what they did, if you cant work out what that means then thats your problem not mine and proves how blinkered and one sided you really are.
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:42 am

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Viewpoint wrote:Play your favorite game again Kikapu "Judge, Jury and Executioner" you are teying to worm you way out of unfounded accusations you so freely throw around the forum only to find that when challenged what you have been saying is a load of crap. You have proven nothing the things you claim are all in your mind and I have no time nor the desire to deal with your superiority complexes, you are 100% wrong about me and it only proves to me what an idiot you really are.


You have not challenged me in anything VP. Most things you say are lies, so by saying that you are not a "paid propagandist" does not absolve you of anything. We have 8,500+ posts from you on this forum that says otherwise.

Now, are you going to condemn these murderers or not??

It will start giving yourself some credibility if you did, and if you don't, well, you know the answer to that too well, don't you.!


Again judge jury and executioner, its become second nature, you threw a load of crap my way about proving im a paid progandist and when I rose to your challenge you spouted out a load of verbal dihorrea which meant nothing. You are obviously derranged I will not yield to your shit.

I have stated many times that these men should be held accountable for what they did, if you cant work out what that means then thats your problem not mine and proves how blinkered and one sided you really are.


I rose to your challenge


I've had yeast in my bread rise to the occasion more than you could ever have VP, in challenging me with your unaccountable methods to try prove your innocence.!!.

I have stated many times that these men should be held accountable for what they did,


That means absolutely nothing. For all we know, you just want them to be accountable on how many bullets they have used up and what the replacement cost was going to be, or how the police officers got blood on their uniforms for beating the man to death and needing money to get it cleaned at the dry cleaners. Sorry, that is not good enough. First you need to acknowledge that they had murdered two unarmed civilians in a brutal way. Secondly, you need to call them what they are, murderers, and thirdly, that they should have been prosecuted and sent to jail accordingly. As soon as you have done the above, then I will not call you "supporter of criminals and murderers" based on those two specific cases, and being their "paid propagandist" to absolve them from their crimes by blaming the victims, as you have done at every opportunity. Those who did the killings were the ones who saw themselves as the Judge, Jury and the Executioners that you often talk about. Do you not agree, that's exactly how they acted, or are you still going to protect them once again.?
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Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:39 am

In this case Judgement, without Judge Jury and Executioners, this is the problem, VP. Indeed it is not enough, and the credibility of your "State" is neither demonstrated nor bettered by the ignorance. If you love this "country" you call the KKTC, this is important. You have and had the opportunity to better yourselves, and to show your esteem for the word we call Freedom, instead the "dogs" that died haunt you as Humans. Things never stay the way they are, and this Problem will not remain the same. Either way VP you must take a look at yourself, if you believe that you reflect a common thought, having the support of other members, to me you are not the wiley old crow for nothing, you have the book. just beyond the dogma though is a change which if it is not called for, secures the corruption that allows for journalists to be murdered, and the glory that is Turkey to be held Internationally disdained. Where is in this matter, the Rule of Law, abrogated to the ECHR, don't you take that as incompetance, at a Governmental level. Denktash was there? no one called for a demonstration of force? riot police, buses, more police than the expected demonstrators...why?
did someone have to die? ...didn't matter who, save a lot of money this way, simple brutality, it always works, this was the set up, it seems with so few in authority, capable of something better, (and more to be in complete control,) this was not demonstrated, it is a failing we all regret; as a militant, VP you must fight this for there to be a shine.

...do me a favour, reread the Manifesto and make a comment. I would like to know how it would effect/affect you personally.

reconsider enclaves and suggest to me where these communities can be most useful to us all, in the north and the south. (boy...that's asking alot), but tell me something else about enclaves other than the "bad" memories, and that these communities may not be successful. Think of them rationally, give me your help.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:13 am

Kikapu wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:Play your favorite game again Kikapu "Judge, Jury and Executioner" you are teying to worm you way out of unfounded accusations you so freely throw around the forum only to find that when challenged what you have been saying is a load of crap. You have proven nothing the things you claim are all in your mind and I have no time nor the desire to deal with your superiority complexes, you are 100% wrong about me and it only proves to me what an idiot you really are.


You have not challenged me in anything VP. Most things you say are lies, so by saying that you are not a "paid propagandist" does not absolve you of anything. We have 8,500+ posts from you on this forum that says otherwise.

Now, are you going to condemn these murderers or not??

It will start giving yourself some credibility if you did, and if you don't, well, you know the answer to that too well, don't you.!


Again judge jury and executioner, its become second nature, you threw a load of crap my way about proving im a paid progandist and when I rose to your challenge you spouted out a load of verbal dihorrea which meant nothing. You are obviously derranged I will not yield to your shit.

I have stated many times that these men should be held accountable for what they did, if you cant work out what that means then thats your problem not mine and proves how blinkered and one sided you really are.


I rose to your challenge


I've had yeast in my bread rise to the occasion more than you could ever have VP, in challenging me with your unaccountable methods to try prove your innocence.!!.

I have stated many times that these men should be held accountable for what they did,


That means absolutely nothing. For all we know, you just want them to be accountable on how many bullets they have used up and what the replacement cost was going to be, or how the police officers got blood on their uniforms for beating the man to death and needing money to get it cleaned at the dry cleaners. Sorry, that is not good enough. First you need to acknowledge that they had murdered two unarmed civilians in a brutal way. Secondly, you need to call them what they are, murderers, and thirdly, that they should have been prosecuted and sent to jail accordingly. As soon as you have done the above, then I will not call you "supporter of criminals and murderers" based on those two specific cases, and being their "paid propagandist" to absolve them from their crimes by blaming the victims, as you have done at every opportunity. Those who did the killings were the ones who saw themselves as the Judge, Jury and the Executioners that you often talk about. Do you not agree, that's exactly how they acted, or are you still going to protect them once again.?


Your despot mentality gets us nowhere, we are going around in circles and you are not worth arguing anything with because your imagination works overtime to a degree of delusion and you end up believing your own made up crap. You try to substantiate your fabricated lies and get everyone to believe you, man you need a does of reality as no one gives a shit about you or your biased and blinkered views, you are and mean absolutely nothing to the Turkish Cypriot people.
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:56 am

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Your despot mentality gets us nowhere, we are going around in circles and you are not worth arguing anything with because your imagination works overtime to a degree of delusion and you end up believing your own made up crap. You try to substantiate your fabricated lies and get everyone to believe you, man you need a does of reality as no one gives a shit about you or your biased and blinkered views, you are and mean absolutely nothing to the Turkish Cypriot people.


Thank you for proving my point, that you are in support of those who commit crimes and refuse to condemn them, but you are very quick to condemn the victims, and then you want to make arguments about you being accused of not being a "paid propagandist". What have you done in the above cases to show us anything that does not make you a "paid propagandist". Just words alone of denial is not good enough in your case I'm afraid, since you lack any credibility.

First you need to acknowledge that they had murdered two unarmed civilians in a brutal way. Secondly, you need to call them what they are, murderers, and thirdly, that they should have been prosecuted and sent to jail accordingly. As soon as you have done the above, then I will not call you "supporter of criminals and murderers" based on those two specific cases, and being their "paid propagandist" to absolve them from their crimes by blaming the victims, as you have done at every opportunity. Those who did the killings were the ones who saw themselves as the Judge, Jury and the Executioners that you often talk about. Do you not agree, that's exactly how they acted, or are you still going to protect them once again.?
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