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ECHR: CASE OF SOLOMOU v. TURKEY

Postby RAFAELLA » Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:55 pm

CASE OF SOLOMOU AND OTHERS v. TURKEY
ECHR judgment finds Turkey quilty.

On 14 August 1996 Solomos Solomou attended the funeral of a man who had been killed during a demonstration against the Turkish occupation of part of Cyprus. With other persons, he entered the UN buffer zone near the spot of the killing. A road passed the buffer zone at that point, leading to checkpoints guarded by the Cypriot National Guard on the southern side and by officials of the “Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus” (“TRNC”) on the northern side. At the Turkish checkpoint there were two military sentry boxes, one on either side of the road leading into the occupied territory. There was also a Turkish flag on a pole situated just behind the Turkish sentry box. Near the sentry box there was a Turkish observation post on a two-storey house.
11. Notwithstanding the efforts of the United Nations Force in Cyprus (UNFICYP) and the United Nations Civil Police (UNCIVPOL), some demonstrators, including Solomos Solomou, entered the buffer zone. Solomos Solomou and a handful of other demonstrators ran to the Turkish side of the buffer zone, pursued by UNFICYP personnel. Solomos Solomou crossed the barbed wire at the Turkish ceasefire line and entered the occupied territory. He was pursued by a British soldier from UNFICYP, who attempted to pull him back.
12. Solomos Solomou broke free from the British soldier and attempted to climb the pole where the Turkish flag was flying. He was unarmed, was not acting in a manner which could have been considered threatening and was smoking a cigarette. While he was approximately three metres up the pole he was hit by five shots fired by at least three persons from the Turkish side and was fatally injured. He died almost instantly. The Turkish forces then opened fire in an indiscriminate manner, wounding two members of UNFICYP, a civilian in the buffer zone and a civilian who was standing behind the Cypriot Government's ceasefire line.

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Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:59 pm

...the most shocking, to me, are the injured (many) which followed this killing, by indescriminate shooting.

this the symbol of their flag.

it is hard to compare the discipline of these troops, and those of a Modern State, and this behavour is as much a threat to Turkish Cypriots, and Turks, as it is a threat to the Greek Cypriots who were demonstrating. it is a very important issue worth the consideration by the court, and Turkey should act, if only in support of her own esteem.
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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:31 pm

UNited nation didnt do their job . when you watch the video u can hear the british soldiers say ""very good"" 0.58 . its a sad thing happen but now its not the time to do propaganda when we trying to make a peace. i can send many smilar things what greeks done but i dont do it. also strange time to make a decision as well. some people again want to build hate. one thing you have to know that turkish army is very strict about their flag and youshouldnt mess with them .


NOONE ASK WHY UNITED NATION LET THEM TO TRY TO CROSS THE BORDER !!!!!!
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Postby Magnus » Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:53 pm

Is this the same chap that Stelios Rokkos wrote a song about? I think it was in 1997 and was called 'Gia Ton Solomo Solomou' but not sure if it's the same guy.

If it's the same one I'm thinking of, wasn't there a comment in the press shortly afterwards from a female Turkish minister saying that anyone who laid their hands on the Turkish flag should have their hands cut off? I think her name was something like 'Chiler'.
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Postby CanDiaz » Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:58 pm

GAVCARoCOM wrote:UNited nation didnt do their job . when you watch the video u can hear the british soldiers say ""very good"" 0.58 . its a sad thing happen but now its not the time to do propaganda when we trying to make a peace. i can send many smilar things what greeks done but i dont do it. also strange time to make a decision as well. some people again want to build hate. one thing you have to know that turkish army is very strict about their flag and youshouldnt mess with them .


NOONE ASK WHY UNITED NATION LET THEM TO TRY TO CROSS THE BORDER !!!!!!


That's no excuse. It hardly warranted his shooting. I bet it would have been just as easy to arrest him & probably more beneficial propaganda wise.(As both communities are so hell bent on it)
But seriously, what was this guy thinking! Crossing a cease fire line, patrolled by armed Military personnel to climb a flagpole to remove a flag?!
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Postby Magnus » Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:02 pm

I doubt he was thinking straight, just got caught up in it and didn't conceive of the idea that he might get shot. That's the problem with flags, it's just a bit of cloth but if you mess with them you'll get killed or imprisoned. I wonder if symbolism is worth more than a person's life.
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Postby CanDiaz » Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:05 pm

I feel for his parents & loved ones.
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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:16 pm

CanDiaz wrote:
GAVCARoCOM wrote:UNited nation didnt do their job . when you watch the video u can hear the british soldiers say ""very good"" 0.58 . its a sad thing happen but now its not the time to do propaganda when we trying to make a peace. i can send many smilar things what greeks done but i dont do it. also strange time to make a decision as well. some people again want to build hate. one thing you have to know that turkish army is very strict about their flag and youshouldnt mess with them .


NOONE ASK WHY UNITED NATION LET THEM TO TRY TO CROSS THE BORDER !!!!!!


That's no excuse. It hardly warranted his shooting. I bet it would have been just as easy to arrest him & probably more beneficial propaganda wise.(As both communities are so hell bent on it)
But seriously, what was this guy thinking! Crossing a cease fire line, patrolled by armed Military personnel to climb a flagpole to remove a flag?!


i didnt make excuse !!!! responsible is United Nation which he left specially that he pass. that time doors was closed . thats an army who shot because for army job is protect the flag and the country !!! i m sure in uk usa or anywherelse you try to do same you will get shot. even war could start !!!
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Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:19 pm

CanDiaz wrote:
GAVCARoCOM wrote:UNited nation didnt do their job . when you watch the video u can hear the british soldiers say ""very good"" 0.58 . its a sad thing happen but now its not the time to do propaganda when we trying to make a peace. i can send many smilar things what greeks done but i dont do it. also strange time to make a decision as well. some people again want to build hate. one thing you have to know that turkish army is very strict about their flag and youshouldnt mess with them .


NOONE ASK WHY UNITED NATION LET THEM TO TRY TO CROSS THE BORDER !!!!!!


That's no excuse. It hardly warranted his shooting. I bet it would have been just as easy to arrest him & probably more beneficial propaganda wise.(As both communities are so hell bent on it)
But seriously, what was this guy thinking! Crossing a cease fire line, patrolled by armed Military personnel to climb a flagpole to remove a flag?!


Those "Turkish soldiers" brought shame to their country by shooting indiscriminantly. Protecting their flag may mean an arrest, or a kill, but not panic and a blind behaviour with lethal force. This is the threat to all of us which through denial is enouraged.
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Postby CanDiaz » Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:20 pm

GAVCARoCOM wrote:
CanDiaz wrote:
GAVCARoCOM wrote:UNited nation didnt do their job . when you watch the video u can hear the british soldiers say ""very good"" 0.58 . its a sad thing happen but now its not the time to do propaganda when we trying to make a peace. i can send many smilar things what greeks done but i dont do it. also strange time to make a decision as well. some people again want to build hate. one thing you have to know that turkish army is very strict about their flag and youshouldnt mess with them .


NOONE ASK WHY UNITED NATION LET THEM TO TRY TO CROSS THE BORDER !!!!!!


That's no excuse. It hardly warranted his shooting. I bet it would have been just as easy to arrest him & probably more beneficial propaganda wise.(As both communities are so hell bent on it)
But seriously, what was this guy thinking! Crossing a cease fire line, patrolled by armed Military personnel to climb a flagpole to remove a flag?!


i didnt make excuse !!!! responsible is United Nation which he left specially that he pass. that time doors was closed . thats an army who shot because for army job is protect the flag and the country !!! i m sure in uk usa or anywherelse you try to do same you will get shot. even war could start !!!


No you wouldn't! In the US its a citizens right to burn the flag in protest if he wants to.

Here's the excuse you made : "one thing you have to know that turkish army is very strict about their flag and youshouldnt mess with them . "
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