Equality? Are you kidding me!
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...with Global Warming, it is very likely that the island will become a desert. To avert this catastrophe to our lives we will have to choose cooperation, or withoutwhich only the fighting will remain. On such a scale, one would imagine other people judging our actions as people, rather than proud "Greeks" or "Turks".
What might take decades, our confidence in each other, will evolve in any case, naturally. The choices we make decide their reaction. Beyond an agreement, however is a solution which requires the will on everyones' part to embrace this future, by changing themselves.
In this world, you get what you pay for, and on this island the cost of our Freewill is very dear.
...in this we are all equal.
VP, i do not believe your assumptions are correct. Cypriots are some of the most socialised people in the world,
whether "place your ethnic origin here" or "place your phobia here", you have to get over your own fear.
Obviously there are Principals which are Universal, and their exclusivity leads us to believe that we should not fight each other, but instead, our real enemies, such as Intolerance. In Cyprus because of its small population as yet, this is possible, and I am hopeful. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:53 pm |
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| repulsewarrior wrote: |
...with Global Warming, it is very likely that the island will become a desert. To avert this catastrophe to our lives we will have to choose cooperation, or withoutwhich only the fighting will remain. On such a scale, one would imagine other people judging our actions as people, rather than proud "Greeks" or "Turks".
What might take decades, our confidence in each other, will evolve in any case, naturally. The choices we make decide their reaction. Beyond an agreement, however is a solution which requires the will on everyones' part to embrace this future, by changing themselves.
In this world, you get what you pay for, and on this island the cost of our Freewill is very dear.
...in this we are all equal.
VP, i do not believe your assumptions are correct. Cypriots are some of the most socialised people in the world,
whether "place your ethnic origin here" or "place your phobia here", you have to get over your own fear.
Obviously there are Principals which are Universal, and their exclusivity leads us to believe that we should not fight each other, but instead, our real enemies, such as Intolerance. In Cyprus because of its small population as yet, this is possible, and I am hopeful. |
Its the application of those international principles thats importnant we do not feel the GCs woudl apply them fairly thats why we ask for safeguards and deterrants to ensure they do. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:44 am |
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| Viewpoint wrote: |
| repulsewarrior wrote: |
...with Global Warming, it is very likely that the island will become a desert. To avert this catastrophe to our lives we will have to choose cooperation, or withoutwhich only the fighting will remain. On such a scale, one would imagine other people judging our actions as people, rather than proud "Greeks" or "Turks".
What might take decades, our confidence in each other, will evolve in any case, naturally. The choices we make decide their reaction. Beyond an agreement, however is a solution which requires the will on everyones' part to embrace this future, by changing themselves.
In this world, you get what you pay for, and on this island the cost of our Freewill is very dear.
...in this we are all equal.
VP, i do not believe your assumptions are correct. Cypriots are some of the most socialised people in the world,
whether "place your ethnic origin here" or "place your phobia here", you have to get over your own fear.
Obviously there are Principals which are Universal, and their exclusivity leads us to believe that we should not fight each other, but instead, our real enemies, such as Intolerance. In Cyprus because of its small population as yet, this is possible, and I am hopeful. |
Its the application of those international principles thats importnant we do not feel the GCs woudl apply them fairly thats why we ask for safeguards and deterrants to ensure they do. |
Because after centuries of killing Greeks on this island and invading and murdering 1000's in 74, Turkey is known for maintaining an outmost respect for international agreements.  |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:49 am |
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| Brittania wrote: |
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| repulsewarrior wrote: |
...with Global Warming, it is very likely that the island will become a desert. To avert this catastrophe to our lives we will have to choose cooperation, or withoutwhich only the fighting will remain. On such a scale, one would imagine other people judging our actions as people, rather than proud "Greeks" or "Turks".
What might take decades, our confidence in each other, will evolve in any case, naturally. The choices we make decide their reaction. Beyond an agreement, however is a solution which requires the will on everyones' part to embrace this future, by changing themselves.
In this world, you get what you pay for, and on this island the cost of our Freewill is very dear.
...in this we are all equal.
VP, i do not believe your assumptions are correct. Cypriots are some of the most socialised people in the world,
whether "place your ethnic origin here" or "place your phobia here", you have to get over your own fear.
Obviously there are Principals which are Universal, and their exclusivity leads us to believe that we should not fight each other, but instead, our real enemies, such as Intolerance. In Cyprus because of its small population as yet, this is possible, and I am hopeful. |
Its the application of those international principles thats importnant we do not feel the GCs woudl apply them fairly thats why we ask for safeguards and deterrants to ensure they do. |
Because after centuries of killing Greeks on this island and invading and murdering 1000's in 74, Turkey is known for maintaining an outmost respect for international agreements. |
We are talking about GCs not Turks, because in a unitary state the GCs would be in charge and we would be left at their mercy hoping they will adhere to international principles when dealing with TCs. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:35 am |
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| repulsewarrior wrote: |
...with Global Warming, it is very likely that the island will become a desert. To avert this catastrophe to our lives we will have to choose cooperation, or withoutwhich only the fighting will remain. On such a scale, one would imagine other people judging our actions as people, rather than proud "Greeks" or "Turks".
What might take decades, our confidence in each other, will evolve in any case, naturally. The choices we make decide their reaction. Beyond an agreement, however is a solution which requires the will on everyones' part to embrace this future, by changing themselves.
In this world, you get what you pay for, and on this island the cost of our Freewill is very dear.
...in this we are all equal.
VP, i do not believe your assumptions are correct. Cypriots are some of the most socialised people in the world,
whether "place your ethnic origin here" or "place your phobia here", you have to get over your own fear.
Obviously there are Principals which are Universal, and their exclusivity leads us to believe that we should not fight each other, but instead, our real enemies, such as Intolerance. In Cyprus because of its small population as yet, this is possible, and I am hopeful. |
Its the application of those international principles thats importnant we do not feel the GCs woudl apply them fairly thats why we ask for safeguards and deterrants to ensure they do. |
Because after centuries of killing Greeks on this island and invading and murdering 1000's in 74, Turkey is known for maintaining an outmost respect for international agreements. |
We are talking about GCs not Turks, because in a unitary state the GCs would be in charge and we would be left at their mercy hoping they will adhere to international principles when dealing with TCs. |
If you're asking to include gaurantees from Turkey in this mix then we are also talking about Turks. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:40 am |
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| Brittania wrote: |
| Viewpoint wrote: |
| Brittania wrote: |
| Viewpoint wrote: |
| repulsewarrior wrote: |
...with Global Warming, it is very likely that the island will become a desert. To avert this catastrophe to our lives we will have to choose cooperation, or withoutwhich only the fighting will remain. On such a scale, one would imagine other people judging our actions as people, rather than proud "Greeks" or "Turks".
What might take decades, our confidence in each other, will evolve in any case, naturally. The choices we make decide their reaction. Beyond an agreement, however is a solution which requires the will on everyones' part to embrace this future, by changing themselves.
In this world, you get what you pay for, and on this island the cost of our Freewill is very dear.
...in this we are all equal.
VP, i do not believe your assumptions are correct. Cypriots are some of the most socialised people in the world,
whether "place your ethnic origin here" or "place your phobia here", you have to get over your own fear.
Obviously there are Principals which are Universal, and their exclusivity leads us to believe that we should not fight each other, but instead, our real enemies, such as Intolerance. In Cyprus because of its small population as yet, this is possible, and I am hopeful. |
Its the application of those international principles thats importnant we do not feel the GCs woudl apply them fairly thats why we ask for safeguards and deterrants to ensure they do. |
Because after centuries of killing Greeks on this island and invading and murdering 1000's in 74, Turkey is known for maintaining an outmost respect for international agreements. |
We are talking about GCs not Turks, because in a unitary state the GCs would be in charge and we would be left at their mercy hoping they will adhere to international principles when dealing with TCs. |
If you're asking to include gaurantees from Turkey in this mix then we are also talking about Turks. |
The guarantees are only a safeguard to ensure you do not repeat the past and act outside of international principles. If you were to be trusted then Turkeys guarantee would be history. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:49 am |
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| Brittania wrote: |
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| repulsewarrior wrote: |
...with Global Warming, it is very likely that the island will become a desert. To avert this catastrophe to our lives we will have to choose cooperation, or withoutwhich only the fighting will remain. On such a scale, one would imagine other people judging our actions as people, rather than proud "Greeks" or "Turks".
What might take decades, our confidence in each other, will evolve in any case, naturally. The choices we make decide their reaction. Beyond an agreement, however is a solution which requires the will on everyones' part to embrace this future, by changing themselves.
In this world, you get what you pay for, and on this island the cost of our Freewill is very dear.
...in this we are all equal.
VP, i do not believe your assumptions are correct. Cypriots are some of the most socialised people in the world,
whether "place your ethnic origin here" or "place your phobia here", you have to get over your own fear.
Obviously there are Principals which are Universal, and their exclusivity leads us to believe that we should not fight each other, but instead, our real enemies, such as Intolerance. In Cyprus because of its small population as yet, this is possible, and I am hopeful. |
Its the application of those international principles thats importnant we do not feel the GCs woudl apply them fairly thats why we ask for safeguards and deterrants to ensure they do. |
Because after centuries of killing Greeks on this island and invading and murdering 1000's in 74, Turkey is known for maintaining an outmost respect for international agreements. |
We are talking about GCs not Turks, because in a unitary state the GCs would be in charge and we would be left at their mercy hoping they will adhere to international principles when dealing with TCs. |
If you're asking to include gaurantees from Turkey in this mix then we are also talking about Turks. |
The guarantees are only a safeguard to ensure you do not repeat the past and act outside of international principles. If you were to be trusted then Turkeys guarantee would be history. |
the absurdity that the GC's have to pass a trust test from the TC's after everything the turks have done to the gc's. To this day people have had their homes stolen and you're sitting there asking for trust from the aggressor to the victim.
Despite all that, turkey has a history of interpreting conventions and agreements as turkey sees fit. A treaty of guarantee means the gc's are getting in bed with turkey. Turkey is holding the homes of Greek Cypriots to this day on pretext of a false interpretation of one such agreement.
Turkey is also a member of the UN and has signed the UN Charter. Why does Turkey not acknowledge any resolutions demanding for the withdrawal of all turkish troops if its so good at honouring its signature? |
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| Brittania wrote: |
| Viewpoint wrote: |
| Brittania wrote: |
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| Viewpoint wrote: |
| repulsewarrior wrote: |
...with Global Warming, it is very likely that the island will become a desert. To avert this catastrophe to our lives we will have to choose cooperation, or withoutwhich only the fighting will remain. On such a scale, one would imagine other people judging our actions as people, rather than proud "Greeks" or "Turks".
What might take decades, our confidence in each other, will evolve in any case, naturally. The choices we make decide their reaction. Beyond an agreement, however is a solution which requires the will on everyones' part to embrace this future, by changing themselves.
In this world, you get what you pay for, and on this island the cost of our Freewill is very dear.
...in this we are all equal.
VP, i do not believe your assumptions are correct. Cypriots are some of the most socialised people in the world,
whether "place your ethnic origin here" or "place your phobia here", you have to get over your own fear.
Obviously there are Principals which are Universal, and their exclusivity leads us to believe that we should not fight each other, but instead, our real enemies, such as Intolerance. In Cyprus because of its small population as yet, this is possible, and I am hopeful. |
Its the application of those international principles thats importnant we do not feel the GCs woudl apply them fairly thats why we ask for safeguards and deterrants to ensure they do. |
Because after centuries of killing Greeks on this island and invading and murdering 1000's in 74, Turkey is known for maintaining an outmost respect for international agreements. |
We are talking about GCs not Turks, because in a unitary state the GCs would be in charge and we would be left at their mercy hoping they will adhere to international principles when dealing with TCs. |
If you're asking to include gaurantees from Turkey in this mix then we are also talking about Turks. |
The guarantees are only a safeguard to ensure you do not repeat the past and act outside of international principles. If you were to be trusted then Turkeys guarantee would be history. |
the absurdity that the GC's have to pass a trust test from the TC's after everything the turks have done to the gc's. To this day people have had their homes stolen and you're sitting there asking for trust from the aggressor to the victim.
Despite all that, turkey has a history of interpreting conventions and agreements as turkey sees fit. A treaty of guarantee means the gc's are getting in bed with turkey. Turkey is holding the homes of Greek Cypriots to this day on pretext of a false interpretation of one such agreement.
Turkey is also a member of the UN and has signed the UN Charter. Why does Turkey not acknowledge any resolutions demanding for the withdrawal of all turkish troops if its so good at honouring its signature? |
Then answer these questions and all will be revealed, why is the island divided and did the GCs contribute to the reality of division we live every day? 37% is the safehaven necessary to get away from your aggression, persecution and discrimination hardly traits associated with international principles and human rights. |
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only if you answer this question:
How stupid do you think the GC"s are that would ever accept turkey to STEAL their land and property ever again? Whether via a treaty of gaurantee or by any other anachronistic legal agreement. |
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| Brittania wrote: |
only if you answer this question:
How stupid do you think the GC"s are that would ever accept turkey to STEAL their land and property ever again? Whether via a treaty of gaurantee or by any other anachronistic legal agreement. |
Do not be so sure. May you will be surpised of what G/Cs leadership (all) can accept and sign. |
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