Arguments after 1st julay meeting at North
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There is one very good reason why it is in the interests of the GC side to delay negotiations as late as possible and that is the imminent elections in the US to elect the new President. This may have a big effect on US policy on Cyprus. If Obama wins, he may change policy quite drastically - some of his closest aides come from the Greek and Cypriot American communities.
The other reason is that 2009 is a year where it is make or break for Turkish EU accession. As the deadline looms, the pressure on Turkey to make concessions will increase.
For those people that think Turkey can stand firm - the Turkish economy has taken a nosedive. Foreign investment (70% of the Istanbul stock market if foreign owned) is being pulled out from the country. Instability in Turkey is increasing and nobody knows what the result will be.
basically, it is a very BAD time to be negotiating the solution of the Cyprus problem. We are going to be in for a rogh ride over the next few months. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:14 pm |
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I hope Turkey is rejected from EU, that there is another coup there and their economy goes totally bankrupt. All 3 very real possibilities in the next few months.  When that happens I propose to all get on Ledras and make a firework show for them  |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:22 pm |
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"I hope Turkey is rejected from EU"
All very well, but unfortunately that will mean that the division of Cyprus will continue and Turkey will remain unchecked as to what she gets up to in the north. Basically, things will get even worse. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:25 pm |
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| -mikkie2- wrote: |
"I hope Turkey is rejected from EU"
All very well, but unfortunately that will mean that the division of Cyprus will continue and Turkey will remain unchecked as to what she gets up to in the north. Basically, things will get even worse. |
It will get worse for them. Much worse For us it doesn't get any worse. They occupy the north and they will not give it back on their own free will anyways! |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:31 pm |
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| -mikkie2- wrote: |
"I hope Turkey is rejected from EU"
All very well, but unfortunately that will mean that the division of Cyprus will continue and Turkey will remain unchecked as to what she gets up to in the north. Basically, things will get even worse. |
Someone with a brain at last, Sotos is a fanatic who thinks that without EU leverage and Turkey in a disarray the Cyprus problem will be solved. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:31 pm |
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"It will get worse for them. Much worse For us it doesn't get any worse. They occupy the north and they will not give it back on their own free will anyways!"
Yes, things will get worse for the TC's but what about Cyprus as a whole? Are we going to wait for Turkey to collapse or for third powers to come to our rescue or for the National Guard to storm the north and kick the Turks out? I think this is fantasy! We could wait for another 35 years for any of these things to happen. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:37 pm |
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| Viewpoint wrote: |
| -mikkie2- wrote: |
"I hope Turkey is rejected from EU"
All very well, but unfortunately that will mean that the division of Cyprus will continue and Turkey will remain unchecked as to what she gets up to in the north. Basically, things will get even worse. |
Someone with a brain at last, Sotos is a fanatic who thinks that without EU leverage and Turkey in a disarray the Cyprus problem will be solved. |
You are a fanatic thief! Who said Cyprus problem will be solved?  Cyprus Problem will be solved when you will piss of from our island. You are not going to do this on your free will anyways. So why not see Turkey suffer and go bankrupt meanwhile? It will be a great fun to watch. I hope when there will be the next coup there will be a lot of bloodshed over there as well. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:39 pm |
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| Sotos wrote: |
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| -mikkie2- wrote: |
"I hope Turkey is rejected from EU"
All very well, but unfortunately that will mean that the division of Cyprus will continue and Turkey will remain unchecked as to what she gets up to in the north. Basically, things will get even worse. |
Someone with a brain at last, Sotos is a fanatic who thinks that without EU leverage and Turkey in a disarray the Cyprus problem will be solved. |
You are a fanatic thief! Who said Cyprus problem will be solved? Cyprus Problem will be solved when you will piss of from our island. You are not going to do this on your free will anyways. So why not see Turkey suffer and go bankrupt meanwhile? It will be a great fun to watch. I hope when there will be the next coup there will be a lot of bloodshed over there as well. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:44 pm |
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| -mikkie2- wrote: |
"It will get worse for them. Much worse For us it doesn't get any worse. They occupy the north and they will not give it back on their own free will anyways!"
Yes, things will get worse for the TC's but what about Cyprus as a whole? Are we going to wait for Turkey to collapse or for third powers to come to our rescue or for the National Guard to storm the north and kick the Turks out? I think this is fantasy! We could wait for another 35 years for any of these things to happen. |
If you wait for Turks to agree for a fair solution is the fantasy. Turkey collapsing is not fantasy and I hope the first steps for that are made soon with Turkey being kicked out of EU, another coup there and their economy going totally bankrupt. There will be no solution anyways so we might as well have some fun watching the Turks paying the price of being barbarians and not becoming civilized! |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:46 pm |
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| Sotos wrote: |
| -mikkie2- wrote: |
"It will get worse for them. Much worse For us it doesn't get any worse. They occupy the north and they will not give it back on their own free will anyways!"
Yes, things will get worse for the TC's but what about Cyprus as a whole? Are we going to wait for Turkey to collapse or for third powers to come to our rescue or for the National Guard to storm the north and kick the Turks out? I think this is fantasy! We could wait for another 35 years for any of these things to happen. |
If you wait for Turks to agree for a fair solution is the fantasy. Turkey collapsing is not fantasy and I hope the first steps for that are made soon with Turkey being kicked out of EU, another coup there and their economy going totally bankrupt. There will be no solution anyways so we might as well have some fun watching the Turks paying the price of being barbarians and not becoming civilized! |
Lets hope it goes the other way and you explode from jealously you ignorant moron war monger. |
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