Division is better than a Federal Solution
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:26 am |
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Can't have done much research. Took me about 10 seconds. Try UN Resolution 1251 (1999) Item 11
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11. Reaffirms its position that a Cyprus settlement must be based on a State of Cyprus with a single sovereignty and international personality and a single citizenship, with its independence and territorial integrity safeguarded, and comprising two politically equal communities as described in the relevant Security Council resolutions, in a bi-communal and bi-zonal federation, and that such a settlement must exclude union in whole or in part with any other country or any form of partition or secession;
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There are, of course, other resolutions saying pretty much the same thing.
Ask a friend to show you how to use Google search engine. |
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:41 am |
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Can't have done much research. Took me about 10 seconds. Try UN Resolution 1251 (1999) Item 11
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11. Reaffirms its position that a Cyprus settlement must be based on a State of Cyprus with a single sovereignty and international personality and a single citizenship, with its independence and territorial integrity safeguarded, and comprising two politically equal communities as described in the relevant Security Council resolutions, in a bi-communal and bi-zonal federation, and that such a settlement must exclude union in whole or in part with any other country or any form of partition or secession;
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There are, of course, other resolutions saying pretty much the same thing.
Ask a friend to show you how to use Google search engine. |
I think you need to go instead to www.dictionary.com and figure out the difference between the words communities and states |
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:59 am |
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Can't have done much research. Took me about 10 seconds. Try UN Resolution 1251 (1999) Item 11
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11. Reaffirms its position that a Cyprus settlement must be based on a State of Cyprus with a single sovereignty and international personality and a single citizenship, with its independence and territorial integrity safeguarded, and comprising two politically equal communities as described in the relevant Security Council resolutions, in a bi-communal and bi-zonal federation, and that such a settlement must exclude union in whole or in part with any other country or any form of partition or secession;
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There are, of course, other resolutions saying pretty much the same thing.
Ask a friend to show you how to use Google search engine. |
I think you need to go instead to www.dictionary.com and figure out the difference between the words communities and states |
Perhaps you ought to read more carefully. |
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:04 pm |
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Can't have done much research. Took me about 10 seconds. Try UN Resolution 1251 (1999) Item 11
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11. Reaffirms its position that a Cyprus settlement must be based on a State of Cyprus with a single sovereignty and international personality and a single citizenship, with its independence and territorial integrity safeguarded, and comprising two politically equal communities as described in the relevant Security Council resolutions, in a bi-communal and bi-zonal federation, and that such a settlement must exclude union in whole or in part with any other country or any form of partition or secession;
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There are, of course, other resolutions saying pretty much the same thing.
Ask a friend to show you how to use Google search engine. |
I think you need to go instead to www.dictionary.com and figure out the difference between the words communities and states |
Perhaps you ought to read more carefully. |
Observer its very simple. VP said the UN spoke of 2 constituent states after being challenged by UN resolutions. The UN resolutions speak of 2 communities. I'm not arguing the solution formation here, just a some of VP's inaccuracies. Don't take it personally, he CAN make mistakes. |
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:06 pm |
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Can't have done much research. Took me about 10 seconds. Try UN Resolution 1251 (1999) Item 11
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11. Reaffirms its position that a Cyprus settlement must be based on a State of Cyprus with a single sovereignty and international personality and a single citizenship, with its independence and territorial integrity safeguarded, and comprising two politically equal communities as described in the relevant Security Council resolutions, in a bi-communal and bi-zonal federation, and that such a settlement must exclude union in whole or in part with any other country or any form of partition or secession;
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There are, of course, other resolutions saying pretty much the same thing.
Ask a friend to show you how to use Google search engine. |
I think you need to go instead to www.dictionary.com and figure out the difference between the words communities and states |
Perhaps you ought to read more carefully. |
Observer its very simple. VP said the UN spoke of 2 constituent states after being challenged by UN resolutions. The UN resolutions speak of 2 communities. I'm not arguing the solution formation here, just a some of VP's inaccuracies. Don't take it personally, he CAN make mistakes. |
Have you forgotten what Kifeas posted about 2 equal founding states? as declared by the 2 leaders after their meeting before the last meeting this week. |
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:10 pm |
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Can't have done much research. Took me about 10 seconds. Try UN Resolution 1251 (1999) Item 11
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11. Reaffirms its position that a Cyprus settlement must be based on a State of Cyprus with a single sovereignty and international personality and a single citizenship, with its independence and territorial integrity safeguarded, and comprising two politically equal communities as described in the relevant Security Council resolutions, in a bi-communal and bi-zonal federation, and that such a settlement must exclude union in whole or in part with any other country or any form of partition or secession;
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There are, of course, other resolutions saying pretty much the same thing.
Ask a friend to show you how to use Google search engine. |
I think you need to go instead to www.dictionary.com and figure out the difference between the words communities and states |
Perhaps you ought to read more carefully. |
Observer its very simple. VP said the UN spoke of 2 constituent states after being challenged by UN resolutions. The UN resolutions speak of 2 communities. I'm not arguing the solution formation here, just a some of VP's inaccuracies. Don't take it personally, he CAN make mistakes. |
Have you forgotten what Kifeas posted about 2 equal founding states? as declared by the 2 leaders after their meeting before the last meeting this week. |
I don't really care what Kifeas said. You posted about the UN and I corrected it. Now you can talk about anything else you like. |
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:13 pm |
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| What ever happens we all agree that there will be 2 states under a BBF with political equality of these 2 states, with one soverignty and one citizenship, now lets move on. |
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:15 pm |
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| What ever happens we all agree that there will be 2 states under a BBF with political equality of these 2 states, with one soverignty and one citizenship, now lets move on. |
Now that we've identified your error, yes, we can move on. |
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:18 pm |
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| What ever happens we all agree that there will be 2 states under a BBF with political equality of these 2 states, with one soverignty and one citizenship, now lets move on. |
Now that we've identified your error, yes, we can move on. |
Now that you have understood whats right lets move on. |
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:25 pm |
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As I see it, Community implies people. State/Federation/Lander/County/Canton and probably others that do not come into my mind imply territory.
The UN resolutions call for one country comprising of two politically equal groups of people in two territories.
What the pieces of land are called is a matter of great indifference to me. |
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