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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:26 pm Reply with quote
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denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Welcome to the forum Bubble and Squeek.
Before deciding where to live, please visit both sides. Cyprus in its entirety is beautiful in its own way. Should you decide on the North just make sure you buy a 'legal' property. Ask for a pre-1974 Deed property, so as to avoid any complications in the future. However these properties are rare and more expensive. Greek Cypriot owned preperties in the North are usually much cheaper. Seek good advice from a local lawyer.

Enjoy Cyprus

Regards

DA


Deniz ... keep still! Confused Evil or Very Mad Mad Cool Rolling Eyes



Oracle, I cannot!


My head is spinning. Had a few glasses of red Chardonay Confused

Why?


OK .... just for tonight! ... you can dance till you just can't party no more! Cool

.... then as for tomorrow...... you have been de-briefed as to your duty! Wink
PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:30 pm Reply with quote
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Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Welcome to the forum Bubble and Squeek.
Before deciding where to live, please visit both sides. Cyprus in its entirety is beautiful in its own way. Should you decide on the North just make sure you buy a 'legal' property. Ask for a pre-1974 Deed property, so as to avoid any complications in the future. However these properties are rare and more expensive. Greek Cypriot owned preperties in the North are usually much cheaper. Seek good advice from a local lawyer.

Enjoy Cyprus

Regards

DA


Deniz ... keep still! Confused Evil or Very Mad Mad Cool Rolling Eyes



Oracle, I cannot!


My head is spinning. Had a few glasses of red Chardonay Confused

Why?


OK .... just for tonight! ... you can dance till you just can't party no more! Cool

.... then as for tomorrow...... you have been de-briefed as to your duty! Wink



....and my duty is?

I am no sentry, that is for sure. Laughing


Gokteki yildiz gibiyim, donmekteyim, Avareyim/ I am like the stars in sky and revolving, with no purpose. Wink
PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:37 pm Reply with quote
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denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Welcome to the forum Bubble and Squeek.
Before deciding where to live, please visit both sides. Cyprus in its entirety is beautiful in its own way. Should you decide on the North just make sure you buy a 'legal' property. Ask for a pre-1974 Deed property, so as to avoid any complications in the future. However these properties are rare and more expensive. Greek Cypriot owned preperties in the North are usually much cheaper. Seek good advice from a local lawyer.

Enjoy Cyprus

Regards

DA


Deniz ... keep still! Confused Evil or Very Mad Mad Cool Rolling Eyes



Oracle, I cannot!


My head is spinning. Had a few glasses of red Chardonay Confused

Why?


OK .... just for tonight! ... you can dance till you just can't party no more! Cool

.... then as for tomorrow...... you have been de-briefed as to your duty! Wink



....and my duty is?

I am no sentry, that is for sure. Laughing


Gokteki yildiz gibiyim, donmekteyim, Avareyim/ I am like the stars in sky and revolving, with no purpose. Wink


Can you evolve from Turk to rational human being in just one night? Confused

You know you want GR! back ... so have an egg-nog in the morning, take that silly skirt off and act like a man! Cool
PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:39 pm Reply with quote
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Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Welcome to the forum Bubble and Squeek.
Before deciding where to live, please visit both sides. Cyprus in its entirety is beautiful in its own way. Should you decide on the North just make sure you buy a 'legal' property. Ask for a pre-1974 Deed property, so as to avoid any complications in the future. However these properties are rare and more expensive. Greek Cypriot owned preperties in the North are usually much cheaper. Seek good advice from a local lawyer.

Enjoy Cyprus

Regards

DA


Deniz ... keep still! Confused Evil or Very Mad Mad Cool Rolling Eyes



Oracle, I cannot!


My head is spinning. Had a few glasses of red Chardonay Confused

Why?


OK .... just for tonight! ... you can dance till you just can't party no more! Cool

.... then as for tomorrow...... you have been de-briefed as to your duty! Wink



....and my duty is?

I am no sentry, that is for sure. Laughing


Gokteki yildiz gibiyim, donmekteyim, Avareyim/ I am like the stars in sky and revolving, with no purpose. Wink


Can you evolve from Turk to rational human being in just one night? Confused

You know you want GR! back ... so have an egg-nog in the morning, take that silly skirt off and act like a man! Cool



It is not the skirt that maketh man, but what he has between his........................................................................ears Laughing
north or south
PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:48 am Reply with quote
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hey bubble and squeak welcome to the forum.dont pay attention to some of these idiots that have been hostile to you,they got nothing better to do,typical gr cyps all bla bla.you have to decide yourself north or south.the turks are generally very freindly people even the mainland ones.i know more asshole greeks and im a greek...unfortunatly.now watch this space for the stupid replies i get Rolling Eyes Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:30 am Reply with quote
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johnny1 wrote:
hey bubble and squeak welcome to the forum.dont pay attention to some of these idiots that have been hostile to you,they got nothing better to do,typical gr cyps all bla bla.you have to decide yourself north or south.the turks are generally very freindly people even the mainland ones.i know more asshole greeks and im a greek...unfortunatly.now watch this space for the stupid replies i get Rolling Eyes Laughing


Laughing pothen eisai?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:49 am Reply with quote
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Bubble 'n' squeak wrote:
Can anyone give me advice? Where is it better to live? North or South? Obviously i know of the divide. I have only ever been to the South but people tell me the people in the North are much friendlier, housing much cheaper obviously because they are not in the EU, houses built to a better standard and its mean't to be more beautiful. I have heard the GCs don't like the Brits now they have their money?


This is the advice from The Foreign & Coomomwealth Office.

Purchasing Property

Before purchasing property anywhere in Cyprus you are strongly advised to seek qualified legal advice from a source that is independent from the seller.

Property issues are closely linked to the political situation. There are a number of potential practical, financial and legal implications, particularly for those considering buying property in the north. These relate to the non-recognition of the "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus", the suspension of EU law in northern Cyprus, the possible consequences for property of a future settlement, and the many thousands of claims to ownership from people displaced in 1974. There is also a risk that, as a result of the disputed ownership of many of the properties, purchasers could face legal proceedings in the courts of the Republic of Cyprus, as well as attempts to enforce judgments from these courts elsewhere in the EU, including the UK.

Separately, potential purchasers should also ensure that they are fully aware of the specific rules imposed by the administration on foreigners purchasing property in the north including the requirement to obtain consent to the transfer of property.

The leaders of both communities met on 21 March and agreed to re-start settlement negotiations. Property issues will clearly form a key part of those negotiations. Until those negotiations are concluded and a comprehensive settlement agreed, the issues and risks identified above will continue to apply and buyers should exercise due caution.

http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travelling-and-living-overseas/travel-advice-by-country/europe/cyprus?ta=general&pg=6
PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:30 pm Reply with quote
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I think people are being a bit spiteful to Bubble and squeek. She was only asking advice from others. She will of course do her own research but just wanted a friendly chat with you on here about it. What was the harm in that!?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:36 pm Reply with quote
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emmacheck wrote:
I think people are being a bit spiteful to Bubble and squeek. She was only asking advice from others. She will of course do her own research but just wanted a friendly chat with you on here about it. What was the harm in that!?


they just cant handle to hear anything good for turkish cypriots. but at the end north cyprus is the best for everything thats the reason all english people coming to north .

more then 10.000 and they are welcome . this is their site

http://trncvillaowners.phpbb3now.com/index.php
PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:39 pm Reply with quote
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I lived in Larnaka for a quite lengthy period between 1980 and 1984. During this time I had the privilege to visit the occupied area several times with the UN. I went to Kyrenia, Bellapais, (the other side of) Lefkosia, Ammochostos, Salamis and some smaller villages. The TC's were very friendly in general (typical Cypriot hospitality) and even one Turkish soldier (Süleyman) was very nice to us (possibly the brown nosing kind sucking up to the UN Wink). I haven't met any 'settlers', at least none that said they were one, so I can't say how they are towards visitors. I haven't been to the occupied area since then. But I almost took my family to see what can be seen of Varosha the other week. The youngest one was in a bad mood though so we postponed the visit.

In the North there are many beautiful places. However, if I was you, I would never ever consider moving there until the island is reunited and the mainland Turks are gone. Especially the troops. Buying property in the 'TRNC' now is a major no-no. It's immoral and it's stupid. Even buying genuine TC property is a risky game in my humble opinion. I would never engage in a game best described as 'Turkish Roulette'. Brits who wants to make a 'killer deal' allowing themselves to be charmed by a smiling thief will regret their stupidity and immorality some day.

Also... even if you're not a believer you're most likely the product of a Christian nation. Would you feel comfortable living in Muslim territory or would you feel like a stranger in a strange land? Visiting is one thing, to actually live there is another. It's not Saudi Arabia, but it's quite different from what you're used to I'm sure. Perhaps you would feel more 'at home' in the Greek Orthodox parts? Perhaps you want to live in 'Little Britain' but with sun instead of rain? Then the Brit enclaves in Pafos could be your best bet. Wink

I would strongly discourage you from buying property in the occupied areas. So would your government! Exclamation

I highly recommend the RoC (aka South). If you're going to relocate to Cyprus now, before a possible solution, you really have no other option than to move to the RoC. If you want a clean conscience that is. And even if you couldn't care less about what's wrong and what's right you should think about the possible (most likely) future financial problems you'll run into when the GC who rightfully owns the property/land is knocking on your front door.

I've read posts about GC's treating Brits with disrespect... perhaps they have treated the GC's with disrespect to begin with? Act like a colonial master and you'll be met with contempt. Be friendly and nice, treat people like the equals they are and chances are 99.9% that you'll be treated the same way. There is a minimum of 0.1% arseholes in every country worldwide. Sadly it's inevitable that you'll run into one sooner or later. Laughing

You must understand that 1878-1960 had an effect not easily forgotten by the Cypriots. Not to mention the games played by the UK once Cyprus became independent. Brits and Americans have always played games worldwide and it's easy to tell why they are disliked by default in some parts of the world. By being a good person showing interest in other cultures and treating strangers with respect you will break through that barrier of distrust quite easily. The ball is in your court. Smile

Good luck!
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