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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2005 6:58 pm Reply with quote
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as a new member i have been reading some of the past topics such as favourite eoka heroes and all the rather abusive and jingiostic exchanges that resulted between nikos sampson and others. It is said a patriot is someone who loves their country, and a nationalist someone who hates all others. i wonder which category some of us fall into sometimes.
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 10:57 am Reply with quote
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I feel that nationalism/patriotism are the same rubbish designed to divide people and then control, the concept of nationalism/patriotism should be made illegal.
We are the human race and we all bleed red we all love our children and we all want to live without fear, so if we all want the same things that proves that nationalism/patriotism is a form of control for the few to direct the many.

Does this make sense to you.
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:47 am Reply with quote
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In my opinion, patriotism and nationalism must not be confused with ultra-nationalism, racism and bigotism.
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 7:47 pm Reply with quote
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Nationalism and patriotism are pretty similar actually. The only difference is that nationalists are concern with the country's interests, independence, etc. but patriots just love their country as it is. The right term for what Spartan calls a nationalist, is racist. Patriotism and nationalism are both great, as long as it doesn't lead to racism.
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Dawn,
who was tried unfairly in 1915?
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I think it were the armenian people, killed by the Turks....

(don't know the historical background though)
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:32 pm Reply with quote
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Saint Jimmy wrote:
Dawn,
who was tried unfairly in 1915?


We all know the answer to that, what is your point?
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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2005 3:01 am Reply with quote
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Dawn wrote:
Saint Jimmy wrote:
Dawn,
who was tried unfairly in 1915?


We all know the answer to that, what is your point?

Ummm... we don't! Confused
I know the genocide was in 1915, what's the 'trial' referring to?

Turkcyp, I'm sorry all the same, but I'm not interested in discussing it, as I know practically nothing about the issue. I was just wondering what the word 'trial' refers to. So, I shouldn't disturb you for more than one post. Wink
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