CYPRIOT APOLOGIES TO ONE ANOTHER
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| gabaston |
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Magik
the reason changes were proposed were: Tc used its veto, thus Makariose wanted changes claiming that Cyprus was ungovernable under such condtions, and that the wishes of the majority could not be stopped by the wishes of the minority......................Here is an example of democracy or so-called democracy failing......for a hypothitical example
What if the wishes of the majorty be that the minority work as unpaid domestic slave labour? |
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 11:10 pm |
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| erolz |
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| gabaston wrote: |
Magik
the reason changes were proposed were: Tc used its veto, thus Makariose wanted changes claiming that Cyprus was ungovernable under such condtions, and that the wishes of the majority could not be stopped by the wishes of the minority......................Here is an example of democracy or so-called democracy failing......for a hypothitical example
What if the wishes of the majorty be that the minority work as unpaid domestic slave labour? |
Under the 1960 consitution the TC community (the vice president actualy) had veto rights on a very small set of specific issues. The TC did block ratification of the budget at protest to the non implementation of the provisions in the agrement re seperate municipalites. This can be seen as a 'veto' but actually is not per se. As far as legisaltive changes go again there was no direct right of veto for either community. Either could retunr legislation to the parliament and in the result of continued deadlock refer it to the supreme court. This is what happend re the municplaites issue and the supreme court ruled against Makraios and he ignored the ruling leading to the resignation of the non cypriot supreme court judge. At least thats how understand things - of course I may be wrong or confused. |
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 11:14 pm |
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| gabaston |
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I have no solution nor have i ever proposed one. nor will I ever propose one.
Im not going to sit down with 12% of this - veto for that. 36% 65% - revolving governments adininitum for some-one to reject. Ive learnt from the last fifty yrs that no solution will ever be acceptable - My number one concern is that no cypriot is ever killed again for control of this island.
Solutions are for politicians to present. |
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 11:17 pm |
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| magikthrill |
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| gabaston wrote: |
Magik
What if the wishes of the majorty be that the minority work as unpaid domestic slave labour? |
slave labour was against the constitution mate  |
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 11:20 pm |
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| erolz wrote: |
The TC did block ratification of the budget at protest to the non implementation of the provisions in the agrement re seperate municipalites. |
what was the re separate municipalities issue exactly. |
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 11:21 pm |
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| garbitsch |
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| Magik, it's too bad that nobody's interested in your proposal, although it was very reasonable and logical. Others just lost themselves in endless discussions... |
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 11:21 pm |
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| Kifeas |
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| gabaston wrote: |
I have no solution nor have i ever proposed one. nor will I ever propose one.
Im not going to sit down with 12% of this - veto for that. 36% 65% - revolving governments adininitum for some-one to reject. Ive learnt from the last fifty yrs that no solution will ever be acceptable - My number one concern is that no cypriot is ever killed again for control of this island.
Solutions are for politicians to present. |
Ok then,
What if the politicians agree on a solution that will require all the Cypriots to be mixed together in a similar way that existed before 1974.
Would you accept that, since you said that you do not personally have any ideas, proposals or even preferences? |
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 11:22 pm |
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| gabaston |
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magic
i know, its a hypothetical example.
hypothitical (not real - made up to express a certain situation)?
haha ha  i bet its even a greek word. |
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 11:23 pm |
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| garbitsch |
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If you cannot spell it then it is certainly a Greek word!!!  |
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 11:28 pm |
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| Piratis |
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| My number one concern is that no cypriot is ever killed again for control of this island. |
Really?
So lets say tomorrow we decide to move back to our homes en masse (200.000 GCs). What are you going to do?
Maybe you will do this:
Maybe what you wanted to say is that your concern is that no cypriot is ever killed again for control of this island as long as you continue to illegaly control what does not belong to you? |
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