Cypriots married to non-EU citzens. Illegal Rules
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 Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:49 pm |
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| Limassol1 |
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Hello,
I am Cypriot and my wife is from Russia. When we went to Limmasol immigration department to register our marriage so my wife can get her residence permit they asked from us a ton of papers like documents for my financial state, bank guarantee, papers from koinotarhis and more.
Also they told me that the permit they will give to my wife will be valid just for one year so we will have to do this process over and over again until my wife gets the citizenship.
After some research I found some documents which I believe make the above rules of the Immigration department illegal.
Legally all I would have to fill to get a residence permit for my wife would be this document here http://www.cyprusvisa.eu/assets/cyprus-visa-eu-forms/MEU2A.pdf and the permit would be valid for 5 years.
I also found out this official EU website:
http://ec.europa.eu/youreurope/nav/en/citizens/living/right-residence-more-3-months/for-family-members-who-are-not-citizens/index_en.html
In the above website it also says that the permit should be given for 5 years and it explicitly states the following.
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| The national authorities may not ask you to produce any documents other than a valid passport and documents related to your family link, such as to furnish proof of means to support yourself, travel tickets, employment certificate, pay slips, bank statements, proof of accommodation, means of subsistence, medical certificate … |
I would like to know if there are any other couples that are in similar situation. Did you go along with the illegal demands of the immigration department? Anybody tried to challenge them? |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:16 pm |
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| Raymanoff |
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you think your caSE IS unfair?
I grew up in Cyprus ( i am Russian), my wife is Cypriot, we been married for 8 years... we have 2 children. And what do you think? I have to go and renew my pink slip in immigration every year. I have to bring shitloads of papers, bank statements, etc... this is frustrating. I spent 60% of my life here... i speak language fluently and i bet you wont spot a foreigner when you talk to me on the phone. The reason i am not given citizenship is due to a 1 month overstay in 1997... I was protokumbaros in 2 cypriot weddings... i guess this can give you a bit of an idea how well i am integrated in the community. But no, i have to spend 1 morning every year in the immigration side by side with stinking asylum seekers to prove something to someone who has basicaly a control over my destiny.
Last time they even asked a paper from a doctor to prove that my wife was pregnant with a second child... that totally pissed me off but i had no choice and give in to their totally fascist demands... Or another time they forced me to pay my social insurance 1 month ahead of time so it would look nice on their records. They do anything they want. Immigration policy here is like an unknown complicated organism with its own intelligence...try figure it out. Russian women having it easy when marrying cypriots... so dont bother, you are fine. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:57 am |
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| Sotos |
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| The reason i am not given citizenship is due to a 1 month overstay in 1997 |
So they said they will never give you the citizenship because of that even when you lived here for 8 years you are married with Cypriots and you have 2 children?  |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:13 am |
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| Raymanoff |
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8 years? who said 8? i been living here for 15...
yes, only through the naturalization...they will never give me citizenship because my wife is cypriot. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:17 am |
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| Sotos |
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| I know people that lived here for far less than 15 years and they got the citizenship. Are you sure is just that 1 month overstay or maybe they don't like you for some other reason? |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:35 am |
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| Nikitas |
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| We face the same problems here in Greece (my wife is non EU). There is somewhere in the system a rule, not much known, that directs official not to break up families. They put you through the hoops but in the end they have to give you the residence permit. The one year sounds suspicious, Greece operates under the same EU rules and grants five year residences. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:51 am |
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| Raymanoff |
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Sotos, why shouldn't they like me? I was 14 when i came... basicaly spent my teenage years here, then went to college etc etc... Its the system, people's mentality etc... anyway read this:
We were planning to go see my inlaws in London last year... my older son (4) did not have Cypriot passport yet to travel... so we had to apply 2 months before travelling. There were delays, many questions, promises...in the end, no passport 10 days before departure... MY wife was born in London and have British Citizenship...alltho her British passport was long expired we still went to British HC to try our luck... 10 minutes waiting, filled 1 form... 7 days later a phone call.. "please come and pick your passport"
On the way back we decided to pass from the Ministry of Interior to have a rant at Authorities... here is the picture:
10 Confused TC asking where they could travel with ther new cypriot Passport, 5 Asylum seekers, couple of Chinese students and head of Migration Office walking in an ugly dirty skirt, flipflops and eating Paputsosika in front of Everyone. My wife started shouting at her and only after a 10 minute of scandal we went to sign couple of
papers... and the obstacle was: Russian Father 
I think being under British rule till today wouldn't hurt Cyprus at all... what a fucking attitude, amazing. |
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