Icemans Map of Cyprus
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| Lovely Map Iceman. I know of the names. Notice the name Ziameti north of Catalkoy. Another Turkish name for 'you know who'. Probably Evkaf land. |
So what does that mean? That even from before 1974 the Turks did not accept to call the villages with their real names? Or did they make those villages themselves? Do you know if such thing happens in other countries that some minority will start calling the names of villages with a totally different name? I don't mean just changing the name a bit to make it sound better in some language, I mean giving it a completely different name. What I think is that the Turks always had a problem that Cyprus is a Greek island and that is why they don't even accept to use the real names of places. |
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What you fail to understand is that it was not the minority giving names to some villages...Ottomans ruled Cyprus for centuries and as the ruler in charge they named some villages used by their people...
The British did the same with names...and it was only after 1974 you realised and started Greekifiying place names.. such as Nicosia became Lefkosia,Limassol became Lemesos on road signs and maps...You cannot stand English place names in Cyprus just as you cant stand Turkish names. |
Look who is talking. 
I don't think in the history of any invasion, have the occupying forces been so ruthless, quick and efficient at removing as many traces of the original inhabitants as the Turks have been in the occupied parts of Cyprus.
It's not just the names the disgusting Turks can't stand, it's our whole history and presence on the Island. |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:42 pm |
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| miltiades wrote: |
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| Lovely Map Iceman. I know of the names. Notice the name Ziameti north of Catalkoy. Another Turkish name for 'you know who'. Probably Evkaf land. |
So what does that mean? That even from before 1974 the Turks did not accept to call the villages with their real names? Or did they make those villages themselves? Do you know if such thing happens in other countries that some minority will start calling the names of villages with a totally different name? I don't mean just changing the name a bit to make it sound better in some language, I mean giving it a completely different name. What I think is that the Turks always had a problem that Cyprus is a Greek island and that is why they don't even accept to use the real names of places. |
Sotos , before 1974 many wholly Turkish Cypriot villages had Turkish names , what is wrong with this. You seem to be obsessed with the fact that this island of Cyprus is Greek , has it ever occurred to you that it might just be a Cypriot island , not Greek at all and not Turkish either.
Just plain old Cyprus !! |
You are suffering from bulimia of the mind. |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:53 pm |
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| And you are no doubt in the process of coping with a fundamental change in your bodily functionality which always has repercussions on the ability of the brain to adapt , or rather cope with the inevitable !! |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:18 pm |
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| miltiades wrote: |
| And you are no doubt in the process of coping with a fundamental change in your bodily functionality which always has repercussions on the ability of the brain to adapt , or rather cope with the inevitable !! |
How I wish that were the case ... Sadly my biological functions are such that I cannot blame them for any of my "emotions". A lifetime of vegetarian tendencies, avoidance of nicotine and alcohol, and parentage of lasting virility have left me perfectly tuned with the mind and body of someone 20 years younger 
What is your excuse for poor insight old man 
You are teetering on traitor-ship; reign your wanton loose morals inwards.... |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:34 pm |
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| Pardon me, but where are these maps to be found please??? |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:43 pm |
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| pantheman wrote: |
| Pardon me, but where are these maps to be found please??? |
The map is on the thread to do with the fire .... which was locked because tess, Deniz and Iceman kept calling me "Bitch" for objecting to Turkish names for places in Cyprus ...
I think Lana got fed up deleting their disgusting posts (the Turks) and locked it instead ...
Unfortunately, before I had chance to tell Deniz I am not on the forum to find friends, nor do I view people like him who abuse UN Resolutions as friends.
I believe people are judged by the company they keep and no way do I want to be associated with the likes of tess, SSBubbles, Deniz, iceman etc. ... since my friends are law abiding citizens. |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:47 pm |
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English names? What English names other than Lady's Mile are there in Cyprus?
As for changing after 1974 that is TOTALLY inaccurate. In fact the use of names as I recall, and my memory is pretty good, was always based on the most widely known name, so Famagusta was always called by its given name which was Varosi and as far as I know it was a Turkish word. Ammohostos was the name for the old walled city. Lefkosia is named after an ancient Greek Cypriot King and that was thousands of years ago, Lemesos was always Lemesos, and I have never heard any conversation in which it was referred to as Limassol between Cypriots.
Denktash has written enough about the reasons behind the name changes to put an end to all conjecture. It is funny that he comes from a Turkish village with the most Greek name of Ayios Vassilios who was a saint of Cesarea in Asia Minor, the one they call Kaiseri now. Which is the birth place if Saint Nikitas too by the way! |
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| Later to be Lord Kitchener. His engineers it was that mapped the island using 'triangulation'. Is the coppy of the book readily available? Could you please gie me the title of the book from which it was sourced? |
It's not from a book...I have the scanned version of the original map on a CD.
I'll make a copy for you when you are in Cyprus. |
Thanks Iceman. I will remember that. |
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| Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:08 am |
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| Nikitas wrote: |
English names? What English names other than Lady's Mile are there in Cyprus?
As for changing after 1974 that is TOTALLY inaccurate. In fact the use of names as I recall, and my memory is pretty good, was always based on the most widely known name, so Famagusta was always called by its given name which was Varosi and as far as I know it was a Turkish word. Ammohostos was the name for the old walled city. Lefkosia is named after an ancient Greek Cypriot King and that was thousands of years ago, Lemesos was always Lemesos, and I have never heard any conversation in which it was referred to as Limassol between Cypriots.
Denktash has written enough about the reasons behind the name changes to put an end to all conjecture. It is funny that he comes from a Turkish village with the most Greek name of Ayios Vassilios who was a saint of Cesarea in Asia Minor, the one they call Kaiseri now. Which is the birth place if Saint Nikitas too by the way! |
Where does Amohosto figure in all this Nikitas?
That is how we referred to Famagusta in our family as I recall. |
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| Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:16 am |
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| Oracle wrote: |
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English names? What English names other than Lady's Mile are there in Cyprus?
As for changing after 1974 that is TOTALLY inaccurate. In fact the use of names as I recall, and my memory is pretty good, was always based on the most widely known name, so Famagusta was always called by its given name which was Varosi and as far as I know it was a Turkish word. Ammohostos was the name for the old walled city. Lefkosia is named after an ancient Greek Cypriot King and that was thousands of years ago, Lemesos was always Lemesos, and I have never heard any conversation in which it was referred to as Limassol between Cypriots.
Denktash has written enough about the reasons behind the name changes to put an end to all conjecture. It is funny that he comes from a Turkish village with the most Greek name of Ayios Vassilios who was a saint of Cesarea in Asia Minor, the one they call Kaiseri now. Which is the birth place if Saint Nikitas too by the way! |
Where does Amohosto figure in all this Nikitas?
That is how we referred to Famagusta in our family as I recall. |
Obviously its the same word with the local pronounciation.
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