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Postby miltiades » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:03 pm

CopperLine wrote:Militiades

Please catch up with the twenty-first century. You say :
the RoC with a communist President will no doubt be supporting Russia.

The Russian presidency, premiership and assembly is vehemently anti-communist. Putin and Medvedev have made something of a name for themselves in ordering the police and security services in Russia to beat up and detain communists whenever the opportunity arises (and even when the opportunity doesn't arise).


It is not anti-American to point out the laughable and rank hypocrisy of a US president and secretary of state talking about respect for territorial integrity, opposing regime change, and the limits of humanitarian intervention.

the mistake of underestimating the resolve of the Western world.
Did you see/hear Bush say, when asked how he was going to demonstrate his support for Georgia, 'I'll be sending Condoleeza Rice to Paris' My god, the Russians must have been pissing themselves with fear ! The Georgians must have thought 'well that's way better than a carrier fleet or a shipment of anti-aircraft missiles'.

What on earth did you expect the Americans to send to Georgia. !!!
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Postby CopperLine » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:09 pm

Miltiades,
Is yours a rhetorical question ? If not, then it suggests that laughable and rank hypocrisy is exactly what one would expect of the Americans to 'send' to Georgia.
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Postby Raymanoff » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:22 pm

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Postby miltiades » Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:31 pm

Copperline , you posted this :
""""The Georgians must have thought 'well that's way better than a carrier fleet or a shipment of anti-aircraft missiles'."""
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Postby Filitsa » Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:16 pm

Nikitas wrote:You gotta love Condoleeza's indignation at the occupation by a foreign power of a smaller country, and her protestations re territorial integrity etc. How about some of that for Diego Garcia, where Britan KICKED OUT the WHOLE of the population to build a base? But then Diego Garcia is not ruled by a Harvard wanker and is nowhere near a pipeline, or pipe as Ray calls it.

Everything is pipes!


Nikitas, perhaps he's a "wanker," but how many times must I tell you that he's not a "Harvard" wanker? :roll: :lol:
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Postby miltiades » Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:22 pm

Filitsa , every media source refers to him as an American educated lawyer , does it matter that much if he was a Harvard graduate ? He is most certainly not a wise diplomat, on the contrary more of a loose canon , utterly impulsive , with an uncontrollable temper that could cost the West a great deal.
America was quite in order with its response.
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Postby Filitsa » Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:51 pm

miltiades wrote:Filitsa , every media source refers to him as an American educated lawyer , does it matter that much if he was a Harvard graduate ? He is most certainly not a wise diplomat, on the contrary more of a loose canon , utterly impulsive , with an uncontrollable temper that could cost the West a great deal.
America was quite in order with its response.


Do you commonly subscribe to misinformation, generalizations, and faulty logic, Miltiades? The fact is that Shaakasvili was not educated at Harvard. Your willingness to render post-secondary educational institutions in the U.S. homogeneous indicates that you know very little about them. Further, a law degree, from the U.S. or anywhere else, does not guarantee a wise diplomat. Neither does is it temper the "utterly impulsive" "loose can[n]on" "with an uncontrollable temper." These are inherent personality trates that, again, a law degree, from America or anywhere else, cannot alter. Indeed "America was quite in order with its response."
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Postby Bananiot » Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:30 pm

Angela Merkel said today that Georgia can become member of NATO if this is her wish. Is it okay for Georgia to become member of NATO? What do forum members think?
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Postby miltiades » Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:34 pm

Filitsa wrote:
miltiades wrote:Filitsa , every media source refers to him as an American educated lawyer , does it matter that much if he was a Harvard graduate ? He is most certainly not a wise diplomat, on the contrary more of a loose canon , utterly impulsive , with an uncontrollable temper that could cost the West a great deal.
America was quite in order with its response.


Do you commonly subscribe to misinformation, generalizations, and faulty logic, Miltiades? The fact is that Shaakasvili was not educated at Harvard. Your willingness to render post-secondary educational institutions in the U.S. homogeneous indicates that you know very little about them. Further, a law degree, from the U.S. or anywhere else, does not guarantee a wise diplomat. Neither does is it temper the "utterly impulsive" "loose can[n]on" "with an uncontrollable temper." These are inherent personality trates that, again, a law degree, from America or anywhere else, cannot alter. Indeed "America was quite in order with its response."

You are not making sense Filitsa , what exactly is it that you dissagree with ? Faulty logic regarding what ?
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Postby Filitsa » Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:39 pm

Filitsa wrote:
miltiades wrote:Filitsa , every media source refers to him as an American educated lawyer , does it matter that much if he was a Harvard graduate ? He is most certainly not a wise diplomat, on the contrary more of a loose canon , utterly impulsive , with an uncontrollable temper that could cost the West a great deal.
America was quite in order with its response.


Do you commonly subscribe to misinformation, generalizations, and faulty logic, Miltiades? The fact is that Shaakasvili was not educated at Harvard. Your willingness to render post-secondary educational institutions in the U.S. homogeneous indicates that you know very little about them. Further, a law degree, from the U.S. or anywhere else, does not guarantee a wise diplomat. Neither does is it temper the "utterly impulsive" "loose can[n]on" "with an uncontrollable temper." These are inherent personality trates that, again, a law degree, from America or anywhere else, cannot alter. Indeed "America was quite in order with its response."


I feel compelled to add that although it is agreed that "America was quite in order with its response," I believe so for a different reason than you. Its response was pre-meditated as was the rest of this fiasco.
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