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This project can be both a benefit, and a knife against the throat of Cyprus. If Cyprus cannot have sufficient water, and Turkey ends up being the only source, that gives Turkey power over Cypriot politics. The administration in the north may find water - rather than the presence of military forces - may be harder to ignore, given that any displeasure by Ankara over the northern administration could be clearly shown by 'turning off the tap'. Perhaps both the RoC government (and the northern administration) should start building a lot more desalination plants. Dependency on foreign water supplies is not sound policy...

I am surprised utu. people sharing resources should be seen as a good thing. Desalination plants are not without their faults.

So says the man who wants to steal nearly half a country because he cannot "share".

You keep going on about good will....Well here it is Stella......I know you not to be gracious but everyone needs to drink. Even the Devil herself!!!!

We as neighbors can share...You in the South and us in the TRNC....Unless you want a fair settlement of two states.

I don't think Turkey is expecting to supply water as a goodwill gesture, either to the "TC"s and especially not to the GCs.

So don't rush all the way from the UK to get your supply of Motherland nectar!

[zan]

This project can be both a benefit, and a knife against the throat of Cyprus. If Cyprus cannot have sufficient water, and Turkey ends up being the only source, that gives Turkey power over Cypriot politics. The administration in the north may find water - rather than the presence of military forces - may be harder to ignore, given that any displeasure by Ankara over the northern administration could be clearly shown by 'turning off the tap'. Perhaps both the RoC government (and the northern administration) should start building a lot more desalination plants. Dependency on foreign water supplies is not sound policy...

I am surprised utu. people sharing resources should be seen as a good thing. Desalination plants are not without their faults.

So says the man who wants to steal nearly half a country because he cannot "share".

You keep going on about good will....Well here it is Stella......I know you not to be gracious but everyone needs to drink. Even the Devil herself!!!!

We as neighbors can share...You in the South and us in the TRNC....Unless you want a fair settlement of two states.

I don't think Turkey is expecting to supply water as a goodwill gesture, either to the "TC"s and especially not to the GCs.

So don't rush all the way from the UK to get your supply of Motherland nectar!

Got my seat booked for 2013 and the ice bucket ready......

[utu]

Zan,

Water is the lifeblood of humanity. More than oil. Turkey's project to it's northern Cypriot administration may well be a goodwill gesture, like Greece's water shipments, but it does have the capability to be used as a political/economic weapon. Water is scarce in Cyprus, even though the island itself is surrounded by water. For Cyprus not to have any worries about where their water is coming from, desaliniation (while currently expensive, it is getting cheaper each year thanks to new technologies) really needs to be pursued. Whrn you look at it, the RoC depending upon Greek water shipments and the northern administration depening upon Turkish water shipments makes a mockery of independence for the island. Cyprus is becoming a 'water dependency' of two belligerant countries who have strong competing geopolitical interests in the region.

[zan]

Zan,

Water is the lifeblood of humanity. More than oil. Turkey's project to it's northern Cypriot administration may well be a goodwill gesture, like Greece's water shipments, but it does have the capability to be used as a political/economic weapon. Water is scarce in Cyprus, even though the island itself is surrounded by water. For Cyprus not to have any worries about where their water is coming from, desaliniation (while currently expensive, it is getting cheaper each year thanks to new technologies) really needs to be pursued. Whrn you look at it, the RoC depending upon Greek water shipments and the northern administration depening upon Turkish water shipments makes a mockery of independence for the island. Cyprus is becoming a 'water dependency' of two belligerant countries who have strong competing geopolitical interests in the region.

Cyprus, North or South, is not self sufficient so dependance is there always. Turkey has water that it can spare so why not use it. There are many things that can be cut off just like Greek shipping to Turkey so water will be another commodity.

[utu]

Zan,

Water is the lifeblood of humanity. More than oil. Turkey's project to it's northern Cypriot administration may well be a goodwill gesture, like Greece's water shipments, but it does have the capability to be used as a political/economic weapon. Water is scarce in Cyprus, even though the island itself is surrounded by water. For Cyprus not to have any worries about where their water is coming from, desaliniation (while currently expensive, it is getting cheaper each year thanks to new technologies) really needs to be pursued. Whrn you look at it, the RoC depending upon Greek water shipments and the northern administration depening upon Turkish water shipments makes a mockery of independence for the island. Cyprus is becoming a 'water dependency' of two belligerant countries who have strong competing geopolitical interests in the region.

Cyprus, North or South, is not self sufficient so dependance is there always. Turkey has water that it can spare so why not use it. There are many things that can be cut off just like Greek shipping to Turkey so water will be another commodity.

Zan,

I think you're missing the point. True, total independence is impossible in today's world given the commerce angle, but when a country is utterly dependent upon water by other nations that have a vested interest in that country, then that raises some very nasty possibilities. Cyprus should not and must not have to depend upon Turkish or Greek water to survive, given the current political dispostion of the island.

[zan]

Zan,

Water is the lifeblood of humanity. More than oil. Turkey's project to it's northern Cypriot administration may well be a goodwill gesture, like Greece's water shipments, but it does have the capability to be used as a political/economic weapon. Water is scarce in Cyprus, even though the island itself is surrounded by water. For Cyprus not to have any worries about where their water is coming from, desaliniation (while currently expensive, it is getting cheaper each year thanks to new technologies) really needs to be pursued. Whrn you look at it, the RoC depending upon Greek water shipments and the northern administration depening upon Turkish water shipments makes a mockery of independence for the island. Cyprus is becoming a 'water dependency' of two belligerant countries who have strong competing geopolitical interests in the region.

Cyprus, North or South, is not self sufficient so dependance is there always. Turkey has water that it can spare so why not use it. There are many things that can be cut off just like Greek shipping to Turkey so water will be another commodity.

Zan,

I think you're missing the point. True, total independence is impossible in today's world given the commerce angle, but when a country is utterly dependent upon water by other nations that have a vested interest in that country, then that raises some very nasty possibilities. Cyprus should not and must not have to depend upon Turkish or Greek water to survive, given the current political dispostion of the island.

I got the point utu and am sorry if I did not make mine properly. Cyprus is only in need of water from outside when times are bad. Maybe with climate change that might be more often and maybe planting ore trees would help but I am not convinced that using more energy than is needed as in desalination plants is the right way to go. There are Turks on the island and saying that Turkey should not supply water because they might take advantage can go for every country in the world if we go that route...We don't like Russia and the GCs don't like America and it goes on throughout the globe. There is noting stopping us in storing vast amounts of the stuff so that short term threats are eliminated.

[umit07]

It seems that the pipeline fairy tale is finally going to be implemented.

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detay ... ink=180364

[YFred]

It seems that the pipeline fairy tale is finally going to be implemented.

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detay ... ink=180364

That is good news indeed Umit.

Any GC partners out there for a water to the south joint venture?

[Viewpoint]

It seems that the pipeline fairy tale is finally going to be implemented.

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detay ... ink=180364

That is good news indeed Umit.

Any GC partners out there for a water to the south joint venture?

They are under strict orders not to trade with the North, those that do are penalized in many ways so as to act as deterant.

[bill cobbett]

It seems that the pipeline fairy tale is finally going to be implemented.

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detay ... ink=180364

That is good news indeed Umit.

Any GC partners out there for a water to the south joint venture?

We're a-coming... !!!

Just need to figure out where they put the bleeding steering-wheel on this horse...!!! ... ???