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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:26 pm

Piratis wrote:The only thing that happened to some of those places is that they were abandoned by you because you wanted to steal our land in north Cyprus and go live there instead. Still, all the major Muslim monuments have been preserved in the Republic of Cyprus.

Compare this with what Turks have done in the occupied areas:

They forced the native Cypriot population to leave from their towns and villages and then they intentionally destroyed almost everything Greek and Christian they could find, changed the names of our towns and villages to Turkish ones and they did and continue to do everything possible to erase from north Cyprus everything that proves that this part of Cyprus, like every other, is the homeland of Greek Cypriots for 1000s of years.

Yet another case where the Turks commit the crime, and then they come to blame us! Like when they invaded Cyprus multiple times, killing 1000s of Cypriots, and then they come here to complain because some 100s of their kind have also been killed in the conflicts which they started against us!


Do you the "RoC" claim to represent the whole island then surely they should act accordingly, you cannot act as a part time country and step in when it suits you and your goals.
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Postby halil » Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:32 pm

I am glad that you are putting same things what has been happened in Both sides . Things were not one sided . We have been saying all the time but you keep saying all the time Occupying has done this and that below documented pictures will show you that who was the other occupping forces in Cyprus .... Who destroy them ? May be from those pictures some of you can realise that both sidesn are suffered in Cyprus .

Below pictures are from Koçyatağı (Kutsiasis) Village

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Postby halil » Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:46 pm

Pirates ,
we have lots of proofs ,even there is a documentary is on show now called Tears of the Photographs . İt has been shown all the UN , Eu and ECHR members lately .... well documented videos and comments from the TC's who left their homes in 74 what they felt when they saw their homes after 30 years .


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above picture is from Upper Koutrafan cemetery .

Yukarı Kurtboğan village and also the mosque have been totally demolished.

Matyat (Mathiatis ) the inner parts of the mosque has been neglected on the major section of the outer part used as a minerat is in a demolished state .Cemetery how ever has been abolished .



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Postby Piratis » Sat Nov 01, 2008 2:48 pm

I am glad that you are putting same things what has been happened in Both sides . Things were not one sided


No mate. The same things have not been happening to both sides.

First of all you intentionally abandoned your monuments, properties etc, so you could steal twice as much from us in the occupied Cyprus. Partition and you living in the north by ethnically cleansing us has always been your dream. On the contrary, you forced us to abandon our properties at gun point so you could steal them from us.

Secondly, what happened to some of your monuments (and you still have to prove that every empty plot that you show is what you claim it is) was only the result of time since you abandoned them and claimed that your country is some "trnc" and that you have nothing to do with "south Cyprus". No intentional destruction was done against your monuments.

On the other hand you are intentionally destroying our heritage. Churches can not turn into mosques and Hotels by themselves. Valuable artifacts can not move out from our churches and appear all over the world by themselves. You have destroyed and looted our cultural heritage intentionally.

More info: http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=20573
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Postby Piratis » Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:01 pm

documented videos and comments from the TC's who left their homes in 74 what they felt when they saw their homes after 30 years .


What they see is the result of buildings that were badly constructed , mainly with mud, and were abandoned for 35 years. In many villages you can see such old abandoned houses, which have been abandoned for much less time, and the situation is the same.

Nobody asked from you to abandon your buildings. You wanted to abandon them so you could steal twice as much from us in occupied Cyprus and create your dream of partition. So how can you now blame us when you choose to abandon your buildings???

Did we turn any of your mosques into hotels or churches? Did we intentionally destroyed them? NO. This is what you did in the occupied areas, and then you have the nerve to come here and accuse us?
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Postby halil » Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:42 pm

Piratis wrote:
documented videos and comments from the TC's who left their homes in 74 what they felt when they saw their homes after 30 years .


What they see is the result of buildings that were badly constructed , mainly with mud, and were abandoned for 35 years. In many villages you can see such old abandoned houses, which have been abandoned for much less time, and the situation is the same.

Nobody asked from you to abandon your buildings. You wanted to abandon them so you could steal twice as much from us in occupied Cyprus and create your dream of partition. So how can you now blame us when you choose to abandon your buildings???

Did we turn any of your mosques into hotels or churches? Did we intentionally destroyed them? NO. This is what you did in the occupied areas, and then you have the nerve to come here and accuse us?


have a look again in south to see what damages you have given to those places .It was your political policies to left those places abonded and eraze them from the map .
all the time PIK tv was shown to Turkish Cypriots how well looked their houses and they are waiting them to returnback . They were all propagadanda . Truth came out after 2003 . We witness with our eyes what happened them .

I don't know whose dream was partition or Enosis .

what ı know is at 1960 ROC established as independent state . we all know what happened after 1960 .

TC's and GC's were equal partner at that Republic .which you are enjoying it now .

This time TC's people are more carefull . They know how to play the game as you are .

good day today .
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:01 pm

My answer for you Halil is short, sweet, and simple…

There’s no place for intrusive Ottoman/Turkic monuments and such, on a 10,000 year old Christian island so stop trying to spread your uninvited ways in places you clearly DO NOT belong and there won’t be any problems.

Thanks to corrupt people like you, my tolerance of anything Ottoman has dropped to ZERO so...

EITHER SWIM WITH THE FLOW OR GET OUT OF CYPRUS
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:28 pm

Piratis wrote:
I am glad that you are putting same things what has been happened in Both sides . Things were not one sided


No mate. The same things have not been happening to both sides.

First of all you intentionally abandoned your monuments, properties etc, so you could steal twice as much from us in the occupied Cyprus. Partition and you living in the north by ethnically cleansing us has always been your dream. On the contrary, you forced us to abandon our properties at gun point so you could steal them from us.

Secondly, what happened to some of your monuments (and you still have to prove that every empty plot that you show is what you claim it is) was only the result of time since you abandoned them and claimed that your country is some "trnc" and that you have nothing to do with "south Cyprus". No intentional destruction was done against your monuments.

On the other hand you are intentionally destroying our heritage. Churches can not turn into mosques and Hotels by themselves. Valuable artifacts can not move out from our churches and appear all over the world by themselves. You have destroyed and looted our cultural heritage intentionally.

More info: http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=20573


You bloody kicked the shit of us during 1963-1974 we fought for survival and the you expect us to stay put when we have the chance to escape your persecution and discrimination, then you knock down our homes putting forward feeble excuses claiming they were built of mud, then all the GC properties knocked down were also built of mud and the land used was out of necessity, the churches were run down and unused so just deteriorated, you reek of double standards, you hate it when its done you but excuse your own despicable actions, the above comments put you well in the class of "pis gara gavur" who should never be trusted.
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Postby Piratis » Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:45 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:
I am glad that you are putting same things what has been happened in Both sides . Things were not one sided


No mate. The same things have not been happening to both sides.

First of all you intentionally abandoned your monuments, properties etc, so you could steal twice as much from us in the occupied Cyprus. Partition and you living in the north by ethnically cleansing us has always been your dream. On the contrary, you forced us to abandon our properties at gun point so you could steal them from us.

Secondly, what happened to some of your monuments (and you still have to prove that every empty plot that you show is what you claim it is) was only the result of time since you abandoned them and claimed that your country is some "trnc" and that you have nothing to do with "south Cyprus". No intentional destruction was done against your monuments.

On the other hand you are intentionally destroying our heritage. Churches can not turn into mosques and Hotels by themselves. Valuable artifacts can not move out from our churches and appear all over the world by themselves. You have destroyed and looted our cultural heritage intentionally.

More info: http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=20573


You bloody kicked the shit of us during 1963-1974 we fought for survival and the you expect us to stay put when we have the chance to escape your persecution and discrimination, then you knock down our homes putting forward feeble excuses claiming they were built of mud, then all the GC properties knocked down were also built of mud and the land used was out of necessity, the churches were run down and unused so just deteriorated, you reek of double standards, you hate it when its done you but excuse your own despicable actions, the above comments put you well in the class of "pis gara gavur" who should never be trusted.


You are such a lair! Both sides had casualties in the inter communal conflict which was started by you in 1958 and was over by 1968. Your aim for partition was from the 1950s from before any conflict started.

Yes, all mostly mud constructions would collapse after being abandoned for 3+ decades. The difference is that you wanted to abandon them so you could steal twice as much from us in the north and create some fake "Turkish State" on our land as it was your aim, while we did not want to abandon them, and we were forced to do so by you at gun point.

The churches and other monuments which you looted or converted into burns, hotels etc were not made from mud. They were strong constructions that have lasted for many centuries and which you intentionally destroyed, trying to erase the true history from the north part of Cyprus.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:57 pm

Piratis wrote:
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Piratis wrote:
I am glad that you are putting same things what has been happened in Both sides . Things were not one sided


No mate. The same things have not been happening to both sides.

First of all you intentionally abandoned your monuments, properties etc, so you could steal twice as much from us in the occupied Cyprus. Partition and you living in the north by ethnically cleansing us has always been your dream. On the contrary, you forced us to abandon our properties at gun point so you could steal them from us.

Secondly, what happened to some of your monuments (and you still have to prove that every empty plot that you show is what you claim it is) was only the result of time since you abandoned them and claimed that your country is some "trnc" and that you have nothing to do with "south Cyprus". No intentional destruction was done against your monuments.

On the other hand you are intentionally destroying our heritage. Churches can not turn into mosques and Hotels by themselves. Valuable artifacts can not move out from our churches and appear all over the world by themselves. You have destroyed and looted our cultural heritage intentionally.

More info: http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=20573


You bloody kicked the shit of us during 1963-1974 we fought for survival and the you expect us to stay put when we have the chance to escape your persecution and discrimination, then you knock down our homes putting forward feeble excuses claiming they were built of mud, then all the GC properties knocked down were also built of mud and the land used was out of necessity, the churches were run down and unused so just deteriorated, you reek of double standards, you hate it when its done you but excuse your own despicable actions, the above comments put you well in the class of "pis gara gavur" who should never be trusted.


You are such a lair! Both sides had casualties in the inter communal conflict which was started by you in 1958 and was over by 1968. Your aim for partition was from the 1950s from before any conflict started.

Yes, all mostly mud constructions would collapse after being abandoned for 3+ decades. The difference is that you wanted to abandon them so you could steal twice as much from us in the north and create some fake "Turkish State" on our land as it was your aim, while we did not want to abandon them, and we were forced to do so by you at gun point.

The churches and other monuments which you looted or converted into burns, hotels etc were not made from mud. They were strong constructions that have lasted for many centuries and which you intentionally destroyed, trying to erase the true history from the north part of Cyprus.



All your buildings were built of sub standard crap and we have had to spend millions to repair them so they stay up, yet you have done nothing to perserve ours, that says more about your feable excuse than anything else.

Yeah we were fighting back for survival against the agressive "majority" which out numbered us and stole the "RoC" isnt that allowed in your book? which claims that all our homes were built of mud and blew down in the wind and rain. Yes we ran away to safety from a revenge seeking GC "majority" which is what any normal person would do, if that was the case then why did you abandone your homes and not stay put? why did you bomb and kill the arriving Turkish soldiers and not hand out flowers and water thanking them for saving you?
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