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Why don't Cypriots behave more like Greeks anymore?

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Postby Oracle » Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:09 pm

Medman wrote:Blimey if you want to be Greek go and live in Greece. One minute your Cypriots than Greek Cypriots than Ottomans. There's been some serious inbreeding going on Cyprus for many a century. Apparently the original inhabitants of Lefkara were from the Crimea in the former USSR. There's plenty of people on here that are telling the Turkish Cypriots to go and live in Turkey yawnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you want to be Greek, just go! Cypriots are a lot more friendlier than their motherlands anyway. GC'S I have spoken to don't really want a lot to do with Ellas anyway, but maybe they're telling me what I want to here. Wasn't the Olympiakos Piraeus fans shouting out 'Ottomans!' at the Anorthosis fans a few months ago and the GC's get offended at this. It sounds like they really see you as their brethren doesn't it!


First thing to understand confused Madman, is that Greeks do not just live in Greece. Secondly the natives of Cyprus have always been part of Greece/Hellenic Nation, whether occupied by some invader or other or free.

What individuals may want to believe, and what historical blueprints tell us, are two different things. For instance, you as a Turk would perpetuate the myth that we are nothing but a small isolated colony that you can easily ingest as part of your Turkish expansionist dream. Hence yours, Deniz's and T_C's strong desire to "remind" us we are not connected to the stronger, larger nation of Greece, which you as Turks are afraid of!
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Postby Talisker » Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:05 pm

In considering the early relationship between inhabitants of Greece and Cyprus it is relevant to consider trading between Eastern Mediterranean countries within the Late Bronze Age. The information below comes from Chapter 5 Economics (page 97) of ‘The Ancient Greeks – New Perspectives’ by Stephanie Lynn Budin (2004).

Evidence for international trade in the Late Bronze Age comes from a shipwreck off the coast of Point Iria in the Argolic Gulf off southern Greece, where there is strong proof of close connections between Cyprus, Crete and Greece. The pottery salvaged from the sunken vessel is predominantly Cypriot and Mycenean, including Cretan-Mycenean stirrup jars of the late Minoan IIIB2 style. All these offer a date of c. 1200 BCE for the wreck. The excavators (Vichos and Lolos) have derived a hypothetical route for the ship’s final passage, beginning at a harbour on the southern coast of Cyprus, and heading first to the north coast of Crete, then to the western end of the island. From here, in decent weather, the ship would probably have passed the small island of Kythera on its way to the Pelopponese. There it probably stopped at harbours such as Tiryns and Asine, continued its trading, and then headed out to the Argosaronic Islands such as Aegina. In all cases the primary units of trade were probably foodstuffs, such as fruit and oil.

So presumably Cyprus had communities of sufficient critical mass, resources and skills to be a major trader with neighbouring countries, specifically Greece, around 1200 BCE.
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Postby Bananiot » Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:26 pm

Who the hell wants to behave like a mainland Greek, especially Athenians! Athens is a madhouse. Even Socrates said he was a citizen of the world.
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Postby Oracle » Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:30 pm

Bananiot wrote:Who the hell wants to behave like a mainland Greek, especially Athenians! Athens is a madhouse. Even Socrates said he was a citizen of the world.


Bananiot ... I have already explained the context of his statement ... the known world of his time was the Hellenic world :lol:

.... which included Cyprus :wink:
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Postby CopperLine » Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:35 pm

the known world of his time was the Hellenic world
Another typically narrow minded and daft statement from Oracle. "known world" ? It depends who's 'doing the knowing'.
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Postby T_C » Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:37 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:02 pm

CopperLine wrote:
the known world of his time was the Hellenic world
Another typically narrow minded and daft statement from Oracle. "known world" ? It depends who's 'doing the knowing'.


I think you will find the context was Socrates .....

( ... but your lack of foresight gave your groupie T_C another chance to "smile").
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:03 pm

For Mycenaens to have come to stay permanently on Cyprus and abandon Greece, suggests that the latter must have been one hell of a shit hole!

But is it any wonder? The Cypriots even had an alphabet and so were able to properly communicate unlike the primates of Greece who most likely used a sign language or barked at each other. :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:05 pm

Get Real! wrote:For Mycenaens to have come to stay permanently on Cyprus and abandon Greece, suggests that the latter must have been one hell of a shit hole!

But is it any wonder? The Cypriots even had an alphabet and so were able to properly communicate unlike the primates of Greece who most likely used a sign language or barked at each other. :lol:


Well they did not abandon Greece ... they formed links, a back-and-forth reciprocating alliance :D
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:08 pm

Oracle wrote:
Medman wrote:Blimey if you want to be Greek go and live in Greece. One minute your Cypriots than Greek Cypriots than Ottomans. There's been some serious inbreeding going on Cyprus for many a century. Apparently the original inhabitants of Lefkara were from the Crimea in the former USSR. There's plenty of people on here that are telling the Turkish Cypriots to go and live in Turkey yawnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you want to be Greek, just go! Cypriots are a lot more friendlier than their motherlands anyway. GC'S I have spoken to don't really want a lot to do with Ellas anyway, but maybe they're telling me what I want to here. Wasn't the Olympiakos Piraeus fans shouting out 'Ottomans!' at the Anorthosis fans a few months ago and the GC's get offended at this. It sounds like they really see you as their brethren doesn't it!


First thing to understand confused Madman, is that Greeks do not just live in Greece. Secondly the natives of Cyprus have always been part of Greece/Hellenic Nation, whether occupied by some invader or other or free.

What individuals may want to believe, and what historical blueprints tell us, are two different things. For instance, you as a Turk would perpetuate the myth that we are nothing but a small isolated colony that you can easily ingest as part of your Turkish expansionist dream. Hence yours, Deniz's and T_C's strong desire to "remind" us we are not connected to the stronger, larger nation of Greece, which you as Turks are afraid of!




Ha ha haaaa.......Its not me doing that but your beloved pupil GR. :lol:
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