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Postby SSBubbles » Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:45 pm

Cyprus national rugby squad forced to buy own air tickets to overseas games
By Nathan Morley

THE CYPRUS national rugby union team is so under funded by the state sports authority that players and team officials have had to buy their own air tickets to play international matches.

The cash-strapped squad, known locally as the Moufflons, is a truly global Cypriot hybrid and largely made up of native Cypriots, Australian Cypriots, South African Cypriots and Anglo-Cypriots, most of whom have gained considerable experience playing abroad.

Players have repeatedly appealed to the Cyprus Sports Organisation (KOA) for adequate funding, but have largely been ignored and have even had their emails and calls for assistance left unanswered.

And despite clocking up impressive international wins against Greece, Azerbaijan, Monaco and Slovakia, and topping their European league, the situation is so dire that players have also been forced to personally fork out for accommodation and even the hospitality for visiting teams.

Just as shocking is the fact that the team.

has had to resort to using playing pitches on the British Bases for international fixtures because KOA refused to provide one.

“The British Sovereign bases could not believe it when we asked for their help. They actually wanted written clarifications so that no diplomatic incidents would be caused. They said to us ‘please can you confirm through your government that they are not giving their national team a pitch for an international game’,” the team’s media spokesman Alexander McCowan, told the Sunday Mail.

“We phoned KOA and they said, ‘yes tell them we are not giving you a pitch’.”

On other occasions executives have to club together to hire private pitches for games, costing as much as €5,000. They have also ended up paying for hosting VIP visitors and sportsmen from the international rugby scene.

A source within KOA, who did not wish to be identified, claimed that the organisation does not have a standard rugby pitch, which is bigger in size than standard football fields so were unable to help the team.

“The rugby pitches are longer. They have different lines and markings and it is not so easy to arrange, because everyday these pitches are used for football matches, we don’t have a dedicated rugby pitch,” he said.

The source also said that to get state sport grants, teams must meet certain criteria.

“In the first category we give grants to Olympic sports. The second category is sports that are recognised by the IOC and the third is all the other sports. We give money to all the sports that participate in the Olympic Games and so on.

“The criterion says you have to compete in a world championship, not in a friendly game or tournament and so on. They must compete with many teams and they must be in the calendar of the international federations,” he added.

McCowan dismissed KOA’s remarks as ‘absurd’.

“This is utter drivel; KOA knows that we adapt their stadia to meet our requirements. How else could we have played our last international against Monaco in the Makarion stadium, for which KOA charged us two thousand euros? We are a full member of the European Rugby Federation, like England, Wales, France and Italy; and compete in organised European leagues,” he said.

Under-funded and without full-time coaches, the team, which has enjoyed remarkable success on the international stage, could be in serious jeopardy of collapse unless an urgent injection of cash from KOA or private sponsors is not forthcoming soon.

For years the feeling has persisted that KOA has not fully recognised the popularity and success of the team, and the cold-shoulder from sporting authorities has also had a negative effect on the players.

“Of course it has an effect, but it is never reflected in their performances. We came up against the top European sevens sides in the summer, and the national coach of Wales, the champion team said we are the best team they had played in the competition,” McCowan added.

Only after seeking an interview with President Christofias, were they granted an audience with KOA to outline their level of complaint, although nothing came of it.

McCowan described the time the team accidently met President Christofias on flight to Georgia. Christofias was on official business and the team on its way to compete in the European Sevens in Georgia.

“He saw the team and came over and asked who we were. When we said we were the national rugby team, he said, he did not know we had one!” said McCowan. “Even so, he did get the press corps to photograph him with the players.”

Last year Cyprus international junior trip to Italy had to be abandoned because money to finance the matches could not be found, an incident that raised questions about the future development of the game amongst young sportsmen in Cyprus.

In response to questions from the Sunday Mail, the president of KOA has said he would be prepared to arrange a meeting with the Rugby Federation.

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Postby Oracle » Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:06 pm

I see the idiocy runs in the family ..... :roll:
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Postby SSBubbles » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:44 pm

Well, YOU WOULD say that!

Can't see passed your own nose can you O? YOU cannot be objective and see Cyprus for her good and bad points! :roll:

I remember you posting about your son wanting to play rugby here, do you? What should YOUR government do for him?

Grow up you sad thing! :roll:
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Postby halil » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:51 pm

SSBubbles wrote:Well, YOU WOULD say that!

Can't see passed your own nose can you O? YOU cannot be objective and see Cyprus for her good and bad points! :roll:

I remember you posting about your son wanting to play rugby here, do you? What should YOUR government do for him?

Grow up you sad thing! :roll:


you are wrong ssbubbles , you can write such a things only she can ....

no she will come cross with me about below news from the Cyprus mail .

Cyprus is always good ssbubbles ........... how dare we are :!: and
:twisted: we are :!:

British MPs and MEPs take up title deeds crusade
By Jean Christou

BRITISH MPs and MEPs have expressed their shock and concern over the title deeds scandal in Cyprus, and some have already taken the issue up with the government and the EU.

“I find the accounts, which I have received of this chain of events scarcely credible,” said Nigel Farage MEP, the leader of the UK Independence Party and Co-President of the Independence/Democracy Group in the EU assembly.

In a letter to the Cyprus Justice Ministry, Farage added: “Is Cyprus a rogue-state beyond the fringes of civilisation? Does it have no laws, no impartial courts and no responsible government? How could this practice of retaining title-deeds, after the sale of a property, be condoned in a state, which pretends to be worthy of the name, and is not merely a bandit-stronghold?”

Farage said he had received so many complaints alleging “the same extraordinary practices”, described in so many different ways, that he felt obliged to write to the Ministry for their comments.

Farage’s response was one of several received following the launch of a lobbying campaign by British home buyers under the umbrella of the Cyprus Property Action Group (CPAG).

The campaign has reached all the way up to British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and the House of Lords, where the answer to a written question by Lord Jones of Cheltenham is pending reply.

The buyers are worried that the global credit crunch could affect developers in Cyprus, most of whom still hold the title deeds to the buyers’ homes. If a developer were to collapse, the banks would have legal right of foreclosure.

There are around 30,000 foreign buyers in this position, and another 70,000 or so Cypriots. CPAG wants a guarantee from the government similar to the one recently put in place for bank deposits.

Seeing no movement on the part of the government, Britons have taken their fight to the UK and the EU.

Replies to lobbying letters were received from several other MPs and MEPs, who said they had received many similar complaints from British buyers in Cyprus.

Struan Stevenson, MEP andVice-President of the EPP-ED Group and Conservative Member for Scotland, said that event though it was not a ‘European matter’, “we are in the process of compiling a dossier of all the similar cases we have received as a warning to people about the pitfalls involved in setting up businesses or homes abroad.”

Stevenson said he had also written to DISY MEP Ioannis Kasoulides enquiring about a particular case. Kasoulides told him he had received almost identical letters from other British MEPs.

“He [Kasoulides] claims that no companies have faced risks of bankruptcy,” said Stevenson.

“He added that it is true that title deeds are issued with a delay of a couple of years and should be agreed in the selling contract. The delay is due to heavy bureaucracy in the Planning Bureau due to the issue approvals. He finishes that buyers should always be careful with what sort of contracts they agree with.”

Caroline Jackson MEP also said in a letter to one buyer that it was not a European matter.

“I think it is unlikely that there is any action that the European Commission can take to intervene in Cyprus,” Jackson’s letter said. “However, I understand that you are concerned and I would be happy to clarify the Commission's position on this issue by tabling a written parliamentary question to the Commission on your behalf.”

Robert Kilroy-Silk, an independent MEP, said he also had received other letters and had written to the Cyprus High Commissioner in London. He was awaiting a response, he said.

Mark Prisk, MP in the House of Commons, said he had not been aware of the problems of property owners in Cyprus and had written to Britain’s Minister of State for Europe Caroline Flint asking her to respond as to what action was being taken to ensure that British property owners in Cyprus were not put at risk.



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Postby Bananiot » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:06 pm

There is an easy way out of this Bubbles. Do you want to make their hair stand on end? Tell them that you will practice and play your games in the north.
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Postby SSBubbles » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:10 pm

halil wrote:
you are wrong ssbubbles , you can write such a things only she can ....

no she will come cross with me about below news from the Cyprus mail .

Cyprus is always good ssbubbles ........... how dare we are :!: and
:twisted: we are :!:

British MPs and MEPs take up title deeds crusade
By Jean Christou

BRITISH MPs and MEPs have expressed their shock and concern over the title deeds scandal in Cyprus, and some have already taken the issue up with the government and the EU.

“I find the accounts, which I have received of this chain of events scarcely credible,” said Nigel Farage MEP, the leader of the UK Independence Party and Co-President of the Independence/Democracy Group in the EU assembly.

In a letter to the Cyprus Justice Ministry, Farage added: “Is Cyprus a rogue-state beyond the fringes of civilisation? Does it have no laws, no impartial courts and no responsible government? How could this practice of retaining title-deeds, after the sale of a property, be condoned in a state, which pretends to be worthy of the name, and is not merely a bandit-stronghold?”

Farage said he had received so many complaints alleging “the same extraordinary practices”, described in so many different ways, that he felt obliged to write to the Ministry for their comments.

Farage’s response was one of several received following the launch of a lobbying campaign by British home buyers under the umbrella of the Cyprus Property Action Group (CPAG).

The campaign has reached all the way up to British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and the House of Lords, where the answer to a written question by Lord Jones of Cheltenham is pending reply.

The buyers are worried that the global credit crunch could affect developers in Cyprus, most of whom still hold the title deeds to the buyers’ homes. If a developer were to collapse, the banks would have legal right of foreclosure.

There are around 30,000 foreign buyers in this position, and another 70,000 or so Cypriots. CPAG wants a guarantee from the government similar to the one recently put in place for bank deposits.

Seeing no movement on the part of the government, Britons have taken their fight to the UK and the EU.

Replies to lobbying letters were received from several other MPs and MEPs, who said they had received many similar complaints from British buyers in Cyprus.

Struan Stevenson, MEP andVice-President of the EPP-ED Group and Conservative Member for Scotland, said that event though it was not a ‘European matter’, “we are in the process of compiling a dossier of all the similar cases we have received as a warning to people about the pitfalls involved in setting up businesses or homes abroad.”

Stevenson said he had also written to DISY MEP Ioannis Kasoulides enquiring about a particular case. Kasoulides told him he had received almost identical letters from other British MEPs.

“He [Kasoulides] claims that no companies have faced risks of bankruptcy,” said Stevenson.

“He added that it is true that title deeds are issued with a delay of a couple of years and should be agreed in the selling contract. The delay is due to heavy bureaucracy in the Planning Bureau due to the issue approvals. He finishes that buyers should always be careful with what sort of contracts they agree with.”

Caroline Jackson MEP also said in a letter to one buyer that it was not a European matter.

“I think it is unlikely that there is any action that the European Commission can take to intervene in Cyprus,” Jackson’s letter said. “However, I understand that you are concerned and I would be happy to clarify the Commission's position on this issue by tabling a written parliamentary question to the Commission on your behalf.”

Robert Kilroy-Silk, an independent MEP, said he also had received other letters and had written to the Cyprus High Commissioner in London. He was awaiting a response, he said.

Mark Prisk, MP in the House of Commons, said he had not been aware of the problems of property owners in Cyprus and had written to Britain’s Minister of State for Europe Caroline Flint asking her to respond as to what action was being taken to ensure that British property owners in Cyprus were not put at risk.

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Thanks for your comments halil; but not sure why you posted the above section of the Mail!
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Postby SSBubbles » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:11 pm

Bananiot wrote:There is an easy way out of this Bubbles. Do you want to make their hair stand on end? Tell them that you will practice and play your games in the north.


:lol: I will tell Webbo that!
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Postby Bananiot » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:13 pm

By the way Bubbles, I paid half of the air ticket in 1987 when I played for Cyprus in Belfast in the European Championships. At the time Badminton was not an Olympic Sport. Things got much better when we became Olympic.
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Postby BlackBolt » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:17 pm

halil wrote:
you are wrong ssbubbles , you can write such a things only she can ....

no she will come cross with me about below news from the Cyprus mail .

Cyprus is always good ssbubbles ........... how dare we are :!: and
:twisted: we are :!:

British MPs and MEPs take up title deeds crusade
By Jean Christou

BRITISH MPs and MEPs have expressed their shock and concern over the title deeds scandal in Cyprus, and some have already taken the issue up with the government and the EU.

“I find the accounts, which I have received of this chain of events scarcely credible,” said Nigel Farage MEP, the leader of the UK Independence Party and Co-President of the Independence/Democracy Group in the EU assembly.

In a letter to the Cyprus Justice Ministry, Farage added: “Is Cyprus a rogue-state beyond the fringes of civilisation? Does it have no laws, no impartial courts and no responsible government? How could this practice of retaining title-deeds, after the sale of a property, be condoned in a state, which pretends to be worthy of the name, and is not merely a bandit-stronghold?”

Farage said he had received so many complaints alleging “the same extraordinary practices”, described in so many different ways, that he felt obliged to write to the Ministry for their comments.

Farage’s response was one of several received following the launch of a lobbying campaign by British home buyers under the umbrella of the Cyprus Property Action Group (CPAG).

The campaign has reached all the way up to British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and the House of Lords, where the answer to a written question by Lord Jones of Cheltenham is pending reply.

The buyers are worried that the global credit crunch could affect developers in Cyprus, most of whom still hold the title deeds to the buyers’ homes. If a developer were to collapse, the banks would have legal right of foreclosure.

There are around 30,000 foreign buyers in this position, and another 70,000 or so Cypriots. CPAG wants a guarantee from the government similar to the one recently put in place for bank deposits.

Seeing no movement on the part of the government, Britons have taken their fight to the UK and the EU.

Replies to lobbying letters were received from several other MPs and MEPs, who said they had received many similar complaints from British buyers in Cyprus.

Struan Stevenson, MEP andVice-President of the EPP-ED Group and Conservative Member for Scotland, said that event though it was not a ‘European matter’, “we are in the process of compiling a dossier of all the similar cases we have received as a warning to people about the pitfalls involved in setting up businesses or homes abroad.”

Stevenson said he had also written to DISY MEP Ioannis Kasoulides enquiring about a particular case. Kasoulides told him he had received almost identical letters from other British MEPs.

“He [Kasoulides] claims that no companies have faced risks of bankruptcy,” said Stevenson.

“He added that it is true that title deeds are issued with a delay of a couple of years and should be agreed in the selling contract. The delay is due to heavy bureaucracy in the Planning Bureau due to the issue approvals. He finishes that buyers should always be careful with what sort of contracts they agree with.”

Caroline Jackson MEP also said in a letter to one buyer that it was not a European matter.

“I think it is unlikely that there is any action that the European Commission can take to intervene in Cyprus,” Jackson’s letter said. “However, I understand that you are concerned and I would be happy to clarify the Commission's position on this issue by tabling a written parliamentary question to the Commission on your behalf.”

Robert Kilroy-Silk, an independent MEP, said he also had received other letters and had written to the Cyprus High Commissioner in London. He was awaiting a response, he said.

Mark Prisk, MP in the House of Commons, said he had not been aware of the problems of property owners in Cyprus and had written to Britain’s Minister of State for Europe Caroline Flint asking her to respond as to what action was being taken to ensure that British property owners in Cyprus were not put at risk.



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What does this have to do with rugby?
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Postby BlackBolt » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:18 pm

Bananiot wrote:There is an easy way out of this Bubbles. Do you want to make their hair stand on end? Tell them that you will practice and play your games in the north.


Good idea, you can drive them all there when you go to pick up your paycheck from the 'TRNC' authorities.
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