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Re: Israel finaly putting Hamas in its place

Postby Oracle » Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:52 am

Free Spirit wrote:Isn't it god to see Israel sorting out the cowards who set up rocket and mortar sites within populated areas inside Gaza and then send these missiles randomly into peaceful civilian districts inside Israel.
This action has long been overdue in my humble opinion, for too long these Muslim cowards have waged a war on Israel whilst hiding behind civillians of all ages.


This is a warped view, not very salubrious at all; and there is a Freudian slip in your post which may reveal the underlying torture you are battling.

Play a game of "Risk" and chill out ....
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Re: Israel finaly putting Hamas in its place

Postby CBBB » Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:59 am

Oracle wrote:
Free Spirit wrote:Isn't it god to see Israel sorting out the cowards who set up rocket and mortar sites within populated areas inside Gaza and then send these missiles randomly into peaceful civilian districts inside Israel.
This action has long been overdue in my humble opinion, for too long these Muslim cowards have waged a war on Israel whilst hiding behind civillians of all ages.


This is a warped view, not very salubrious at all; and there is a Freudian slip in your post which may reveal the underlying torture you are battling.

Play a game of "Risk" and chill out ....


Yes, I think Freud would have found it interesting that Free Spirit thinks the Isrealis are doing "god's" work.
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Postby tessintrnc » Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:00 am

Free-Spirit, the only government/country supporting Israel in these killings is the USA. The United nations and also the European union have condemned Israels actions. The people of Palestine need help, the hospitals are overwhelmed by the wounded, now running at over 1400, lack of supplies due to Israels actions have turned this into a humanitarian crisis. As for putting Hamas "in it's place" where exactly is that place? Israel have coveted Gaza for years and won't be happy till they have control of that whole area (in my opinion).
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Re: Israel finaly putting Hamas in its place

Postby Oracle » Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:04 am

CBBB wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Free Spirit wrote:Isn't it god to see Israel sorting out the cowards who set up rocket and mortar sites within populated areas inside Gaza and then send these missiles randomly into peaceful civilian districts inside Israel.
This action has long been overdue in my humble opinion, for too long these Muslim cowards have waged a war on Israel whilst hiding behind civillians of all ages.


This is a warped view, not very salubrious at all; and there is a Freudian slip in your post which may reveal the underlying torture you are battling.

Play a game of "Risk" and chill out ....


Yes, I think Freud would have found it interesting that Free Spirit thinks the Isrealis are doing "god's" work.


Yes, rather revealing wouldn't you say ....

.... all boils down to "god" :roll: When does he get crucified again?
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Re: Israel finaly putting Hamas in its place

Postby miltiades » Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:22 am

utu wrote:


The problem is that Hamas did provoke this attack, and while we can debate about 'proportionate' responses, the fact that Hamas (a) uses non-combatants as cover for their military operations, thus bringing death and injury upon the non-combatants, and (b) is putting a political stance (opposition to Israel) way ahead of their obligation as an elected government to look after the well-being of their people makes their actions rather reprehensible, IMHO.
Now, Israel is trying to minimize the civilian casualties - 'collateral damage' as the Americans would say - which is in contrast to the indiscriminate rocket attacks of Hamas, so condemning Israel really isn't warranted at this stage... IMHO. Hamas chose to attack Israel, and they chose not to recognize, make peace, or negotiate with Israel. They are now reaping the 'benefits' of that stance, and a lot of people are going to die as a result...

I agree entirely with the views of Mr Abbas , the Palestinian President , in that Hamas has brought this latest catastrophe upon the people that they should protect and not expose them to death and destruction. Mr Abbas tried desperately to convince Hamas not to declare the ceasefire over .

Arab nations are unlikely to come to the aid of Hamas , apart from Iran.
Let us hope that a ceasefire is declared quickly to avoid further bloodshed and suffering .

The hatred that exists in this part of the world is nurtured and intensified by so called religious people , may their God have mercy on their souls because they are responsible for the death and suffering endured by so many innocent people .
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Re: Israel finaly putting Hamas in its place

Postby miltiades » Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:26 am

Paphitis wrote:
Free Spirit wrote:
Paphitis wrote:All I said is that these atatcks on innocents WILL result on more attacks on innocents by HAMAS. Same thing really, but I fail to see how you can claim one is right over the other.


Israel isn't attacking innocents it's attacking sites that have been deliberately placed inside heavily populated areas.


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I beg to differ..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... id=topnews

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/de ... iddle-east

http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-upda ... l-20080303

http://www.albawaba.com/en/news/238939

http://ww4report.com/node/6583

So far over 364 civilians killed and 1400 civilians seriously injured.

Paphitis in your opinion 364 civilians were killed , tell us , in your opinion, how many Hamas activists , were killed , if any , in your opinion.
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Postby miltiades » Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:33 am

tessintrnc wrote:Free-Spirit, the only government/country supporting Israel in these killings is the USA. The United nations and also the European union have condemned Israels actions. The people of Palestine need help, the hospitals are overwhelmed by the wounded, now running at over 1400, lack of supplies due to Israels actions have turned this into a humanitarian crisis. As for putting Hamas "in it's place" where exactly is that place? Israel have coveted Gaza for years and won't be happy till they have control of that whole area (in my opinion).
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Tes , in your opinion , how should Israel have reacted finding its southern areas under daily rocket attacks from Hamas , an organization that does not recognize the right of Israel to exist and has as its manifesto the destruction of this nation.
The death of innocents is always regrettable and a crime against humanity
it its condemned by all civilized nations.
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Re: Israel finaly putting Hamas in its place

Postby Paphitis » Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:39 am

miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Free Spirit wrote:
Paphitis wrote:All I said is that these atatcks on innocents WILL result on more attacks on innocents by HAMAS. Same thing really, but I fail to see how you can claim one is right over the other.


Israel isn't attacking innocents it's attacking sites that have been deliberately placed inside heavily populated areas.


Image

I beg to differ..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... id=topnews

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/de ... iddle-east

http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-upda ... l-20080303

http://www.albawaba.com/en/news/238939

http://ww4report.com/node/6583

So far over 364 civilians killed and 1400 civilians seriously injured.

Paphitis in your opinion 364 civilians were killed , tell us , in your opinion, how many Hamas activists , were killed , if any , in your opinion.


Are you about to tell me that some of the victims have HAMAS tattooed on their forehead..Image

Why don't you tell us Miltiades, as well as provide us with your link?
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Postby Paphitis » Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:48 am

Tes , in your opinion , how should Israel have reacted finding its southern areas under daily rocket attacks from Hamas , an organization that does not recognize the right of Israel to exist and has as its manifesto the destruction of this nation.


Israel could have reported the occurances to the UN SC and requested some other form of intervention.

The military could also have been used to conduct house to house searches for HAMAS terrorists, instead of resorting to aerial bombardment. The indiscriminant killing of women and children is absolutely disgusting. Trust you to be condoning this barbarism!

You are a fool to think for one second that this action will not result in further terrorism all over the world.
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Postby DT. » Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:56 am

Sad fact is that Israel has just condemned the Western world to another round of terrorist hits in 2009.

I think Hamas are idiots to have broken the cease fire and the Palestinians should have ousted them by now, however Israel's indiscriminate attack in downtown Gaza neighbourhoods will have only strengthened Hamas now.
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