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Postby miltiades » Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:55 pm

matahary wrote:
miltiades wrote:The deliberate targeting of civilians is a crime against humanity and it is inexcusable. Even if fired upon from inside or around the building knowing that innocent civilians were sheltering inside no attack should have been made .


Do you mean Hamas attacks that target civilians for months and months by now?? How would you feel if turks were sending rockets over the border that would explode in Nicosia/Limassol/Larnaka?? If your kids won't be able to go to school because of the sirens and had to run for the shelters a few times a day?

Israeli retaliation maybe disproportional and it might not achieve the goals Israel wants to achieve. Future will show. But it was the only way to protect the innocent citizens of Israel from being targeted by Hamas terrorists. And by the way after Israeli attack on Lebanon (read Hizbalah) there are no more rockets flying over the northern border. Go figure.

I think you ought to first familiarize your self with my well known position as regards the security and the right of Israel to exist and to defend its borders , also the right of the Palestinians to their own state. I despise all criminal inhumane acts that have as an end result the indiscriminate killing of innocent people. No nation on earth can desist from its duty to defend its citizens from such attacks. Similarly no army in the world should deliberately target innocents in order to achieve its objective.

Let us hope that Hamas agrees to a new seize fire and is ready to recognize the right of the state of Israel to exist.
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Postby matahary » Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:09 pm

miltiades wrote:
matahary wrote:
miltiades wrote:The deliberate targeting of civilians is a crime against humanity and it is inexcusable. Even if fired upon from inside or around the building knowing that innocent civilians were sheltering inside no attack should have been made .


Do you mean Hamas attacks that target civilians for months and months by now?? How would you feel if turks were sending rockets over the border that would explode in Nicosia/Limassol/Larnaka?? If your kids won't be able to go to school because of the sirens and had to run for the shelters a few times a day?

Israeli retaliation maybe disproportional and it might not achieve the goals Israel wants to achieve. Future will show. But it was the only way to protect the innocent citizens of Israel from being targeted by Hamas terrorists. And by the way after Israeli attack on Lebanon (read Hizbalah) there are no more rockets flying over the northern border. Go figure.

I think you ought to first familiarize your self with my well known position as regards the security and the right of Israel to exist and to defend its borders , also the right of the Palestinians to their own state. I despise all criminal inhumane acts that have as an end result the indiscriminate killing of innocent people. No nation on earth can desist from its duty to defend its citizens from such attacks. Similarly no army in the world should deliberately target innocents in order to achieve its objective.

Let us hope that Hamas agrees to a new seize fire and is ready to recognize the right of the state of Israel to exist.


Maybe you should familiarize myself with my well-known position which is pretty simple really - Every state (or person) has a right to defend itself.
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:21 pm

Israel Attacks Schools, Ambulances…
http://www.antiwar.com/ips/frykberg.php?articleid=14009

At Least 46 Killed as Israel Attacks Gaza School…
http://news.antiwar.com/2009/01/06/up-t ... za-school/

UN Says No Hamas Fighters Were in Bombed Gaza School…
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/ ... 87,00.html

Israel's Deadly Assault on Gaza…
http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0 ... 90,00.html

Turkish basketball fans stop Israeli team playing…
http://wire.antiwar.com/2009/01/06/turk ... m-playing/

Venezuela expels Israeli ambassador…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090106/ap_ ... a_israel_2
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Postby saravakos » Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:45 am

matahary wrote:
miltiades wrote:The deliberate targeting of civilians is a crime against humanity and it is inexcusable. Even if fired upon from inside or around the building knowing that innocent civilians were sheltering inside no attack should have been made .


Do you mean Hamas attacks that target civilians for months and months by now?? How would you feel if turks were sending rockets over the border that would explode in Nicosia/Limassol/Larnaka?? If your kids won't be able to go to school because of the sirens and had to run for the shelters a few times a day?

Israeli retaliation maybe disproportional and it might not achieve the goals Israel wants to achieve. Future will show. But it was the only way to protect the innocent citizens of Israel from being targeted by Hamas terrorists. And by the way after Israeli attack on Lebanon (read Hizbalah) there are no more rockets flying over the northern border. Go figure.

Think again. Rockets have been fired from Lebanon today.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/shoc ... 00045.html
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Postby humanist » Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:53 am

I will not coment as I have nothing nice to say ;)
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Postby matahary » Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:54 am

saravakos wrote:
matahary wrote:
miltiades wrote:The deliberate targeting of civilians is a crime against humanity and it is inexcusable. Even if fired upon from inside or around the building knowing that innocent civilians were sheltering inside no attack should have been made .


Do you mean Hamas attacks that target civilians for months and months by now?? How would you feel if turks were sending rockets over the border that would explode in Nicosia/Limassol/Larnaka?? If your kids won't be able to go to school because of the sirens and had to run for the shelters a few times a day?

Israeli retaliation maybe disproportional and it might not achieve the goals Israel wants to achieve. Future will show. But it was the only way to protect the innocent citizens of Israel from being targeted by Hamas terrorists. And by the way after Israeli attack on Lebanon (read Hizbalah) there are no more rockets flying over the northern border. Go figure.

Think again. Rockets have been fired from Lebanon today.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/shoc ... 00045.html


Yeah, 3. Compared to hundreds a day before Israeli army started their operation in Lebanon. And Hizbollah denies they have anything to do with it.
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Postby saravakos » Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:55 pm

Well there clearly are 'rockets flying over the northern border' though.
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Postby matahary » Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:34 pm

saravakos wrote:Well there clearly are 'rockets flying over the northern border' though.


Yes, and their amount proves that Israeli tactic might be working.
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Postby saravakos » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:17 am

Ok, let them kill more women and children ey!
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