Violance in the Koran.
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| Main_Source wrote: |
Erolz, how can you answer a question with a question?
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In exactly the same way you have just done?
I am not muslim by faith. I was educated in a christian school and in a christian country. I know very little of Islam compared to Christianity and so am in no position to comment on how muslims might interpret that section of the koran (and who translated this btw?). So have you read bible or not? Do you believe in the bible and it's teachings? If so I have some sections I would like your intepretation of. Is that ok with you? |
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| Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 10:33 pm |
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| erolz wrote: |
| Main_Source wrote: |
Erolz, how can you answer a question with a question?
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In exactly the same way you have just done?
I am not muslim by faith. I was educated in a christian school and in a christian country. I know very little of Islam compared to Christianity and so am in no position to comment on how muslims might interpret that section of the koran (and who translated this btw?). So have you read bible or not? Do you believe in the bible and it's teachings? If so I have some sections I would like your intepretation of. Is that ok with you? |
I think translation is true.
I read it Turkish also. |
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| Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 10:54 pm |
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All religion books, Koran (quran,) bible, new testament, old testament and all the rest are just fairy tale stories, just like any other fairy tale story that grandmothers read or tell their grandchildren before going to sleep. None of them is god given and all of them are man made.
"Religion is the opium of the people," Karl Marx. |
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| Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 11:08 pm |
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| Kifeas wrote: |
All religion books, Koran (quran,) bible, new testament, old testament and all the rest are just fairy tale stories, just like any other fairy tale story that grandmothers read or tell their grandchildren before going to sleep. None of them is god given and all of them are man made.
"Religion is the opium of the people," Karl Marx. |
Mr Kifeas
"Religion is the OPIATE of the masses" .....Karl Marx |
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| Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 11:30 pm |
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| suetoniuspaulinus wrote: |
"Religion is the OPIATE of the masses" .....Karl Marx |
thats only because relgion is cheap and optiates are keep articficilay expensive - if this were not so then opitae would be the opitae of the masses 
Which one was Karl again? The one with the bushy eyebrows and ciggar ot the one with the parp parp horn?  |
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| Has anyone seen "Kingdom of Heaven?" | |
| Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 1:17 am |
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Kifeas, Interesting post.
Being raised a Christian in UK it was not until I hit my 50's that I questioned my religion, just sort of acepted it till then. What made me look at it, was that I seemed to have moved from the majority to the minority, even if I only attend church a couple of times a year that was more than 99% of my workmates.
Recently I have come to think of the bible and the Koran as "useful handbooks for living", crafted perhaps by a mixture of wsie men and scholars of the day to incorporate what they saw as history and handed down folklore. - some structure in a world of chaos, and when everything falls apart around you, and there is nothing left, then a belief in a higher being is all you have. Bit like hoping to win the lottery when you are down? As for the punishments, well in those days things were a bit more lethal than today, however a return to them might return our so called civilisation to a more sane path.
I gained a lot of respect for Islam when I discovered that J Christ was mentioned their Book as a prophet, along with M. I think the problem with Christanity is that along the way somebody made it an absolute, the Son of God bit. and when you get it turned into big business as by the vatican, then it certainly does seem man made.
I thought the film was great, and had always suspected that the crusaders were really bloodthirsty hooligans who enjoyed chopping people up (or down!) rather than the heroes we purported them to be. I used to admire the Knights Templairs, not so sure now, assuming that that film was accurate.
BEst Regards
TonyE. |
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| Well Main Source you should first read your own Bible and then come and ask questions about Koran. But since I do not believe in religion, I get no offence because I believe every religion contains violence, since they are all created by humanbeings. |
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 2:34 pm |
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| fucksake!!! im not even trying to be offensive!!!!!!!! lol |
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 3:05 pm |
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| Main_Source wrote: |
| fucksake!!! im not even trying to be offensive!!!!!!!! lol |
but are you willing to share your interpretations on sections of the bible with us? |
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 3:41 pm |
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| here we go again...Erolz withhis tit-for-tat / Greeks v Turks again. |
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