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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:55 pm

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7. The Treaty of Guarantee to be removed and replaced with a Treaty of Sovereignty to be enforced by the European Union. Only EU troops to be deployed on the island.



Which troops? The EU has 27 member states can you imagine the red tape to buy a toilet roll let alone take miltary action with a miltary force they do not have.
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Postby boulio » Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:24 pm

it could be a multinational eu/nato force that also includes a contingent from turkey.
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Postby miltiades » Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:32 pm

Very well thought out plan Utu , you have my entire support .Language though as Piratis pointed out , can be both Greek and Turkish with English as the third language.
Well done Utu .
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:28 am

boulio wrote:it could be a multinational eu/nato force that also includes a contingent from turkey.


Is this the same nato force that stood by when thousands of Bosnians got slaughtered or watch on while the Israelis continue to kick the shit of the Palastinians???

Doesnt make us feel confident that theywould take actions when necessary.
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Postby boulio » Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:17 am

Is this the same nato force that stood by when thousands of Bosnians got slaughtered or watch on while the Israelis continue to kick the shit of the Palastinians???

Doesnt make us feel confident that theywould take actions when necessary.


Well thats whats being discussed my boy for the security aspect and there is actually a meeting in stausburg on the 6 and 7th of april to discuss this matter.it was in politis yesterday.there will be a turkish delegation there as well.
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Postby utu » Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:53 pm

I want to thank those who think my idea is - generally speaking - a good one. I know that the language issue is the major one of disagreement here, but as I said earlier: this is only a suggestion. One thing I do know: Cyprus really is too small an island to be a federation. The people have to live together, and that is - I believe - the best incentive to carve out a truly Cypriot identity with no interference from other countries.
Independence needs to be respected from all sides.

Viewpoint, The EU military and law enforcement contingents would have full authority to (a) defend the island and (b) enforce the laws of the Republic until a purely Cypriot law enforcement body WHICH ENJOYS THE PEOPLE'S CONFIDENCE can take over. No stupid rules of engagemet or restrictions, but both would be subject to Cypriot law.
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:39 pm

utu wrote:I want to thank those who think my idea is - generally speaking - a good one. I know that the language issue is the major one of disagreement here, but as I said earlier: this is only a suggestion. One thing I do know: Cyprus really is too small an island to be a federation. The people have to live together, and that is - I believe - the best incentive to carve out a truly Cypriot identity with no interference from other countries.
Independence needs to be respected from all sides.

Viewpoint, The EU military and law enforcement contingents would have full authority to (a) defend the island and (b) enforce the laws of the Republic until a purely Cypriot law enforcement body WHICH ENJOYS THE PEOPLE'S CONFIDENCE can take over. No stupid rules of engagemet or restrictions, but both would be subject to Cypriot law.


Which EU Military? they are unable to act swiftly the death toll would mount in times of crisis, please do not ask TCs to entrust their security into the hands of a incompetent EU.
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Postby bill cobbett » Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:03 am

Viewpoint wrote:
utu wrote:I want to thank those who think my idea is - generally speaking - a good one. I know that the language issue is the major one of disagreement here, but as I said earlier: this is only a suggestion. One thing I do know: Cyprus really is too small an island to be a federation. The people have to live together, and that is - I believe - the best incentive to carve out a truly Cypriot identity with no interference from other countries.
Independence needs to be respected from all sides.

Viewpoint, The EU military and law enforcement contingents would have full authority to (a) defend the island and (b) enforce the laws of the Republic until a purely Cypriot law enforcement body WHICH ENJOYS THE PEOPLE'S CONFIDENCE can take over. No stupid rules of engagemet or restrictions, but both would be subject to Cypriot law.


Which EU Military? they are unable to act swiftly the death toll would mount in times of crisis, please do not ask TCs to entrust their security into the hands of a incompetent EU.


What about the "gc's" security? How will their safety be protected? After all it was thousands of them that were killed in the Jurkish Piss Operation. Where are their life-belts?
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:18 am

bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
utu wrote:I want to thank those who think my idea is - generally speaking - a good one. I know that the language issue is the major one of disagreement here, but as I said earlier: this is only a suggestion. One thing I do know: Cyprus really is too small an island to be a federation. The people have to live together, and that is - I believe - the best incentive to carve out a truly Cypriot identity with no interference from other countries.
Independence needs to be respected from all sides.

Viewpoint, The EU military and law enforcement contingents would have full authority to (a) defend the island and (b) enforce the laws of the Republic until a purely Cypriot law enforcement body WHICH ENJOYS THE PEOPLE'S CONFIDENCE can take over. No stupid rules of engagemet or restrictions, but both would be subject to Cypriot law.


Which EU Military? they are unable to act swiftly the death toll would mount in times of crisis, please do not ask TCs to entrust their security into the hands of a incompetent EU.


What about the "gc's" security? How will their safety be protected? After all it was thousands of them that were killed in the Jurkish Piss Operation. Where are their life-belts?


They can have the EU or Greece or the UN....if we are allowed a choice then surely they should be allowed one to.
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