Oracle wrote:bigOz wrote:Oracle wrote:bigOz wrote:Meanwhile... the situation is getting worse because people ask for the impossible! When the GCs realise every year that passes by mean less number of TCs and more number of mainlanders are facing them for a settlement - they might see the light then!
In the long run, I don't think that matters ... all that matters is that when a solution is finally reached, no more Turk-TCs are allowed to stay than were in Cyprus in 1974 (adjusting for natural growth). All this romanticism about TCs is now outdated. The TCs, since they sided with Turkey, chose them as their people/saviours/whatever, so how can they now claim to be more worthy of a Cypriot status than their "compatriot" Anatolians?
You may have had a point if any realistic solutions could demand the removal of all Turkish mainlanders from the North - I am reluctant to accept that such a proposition would ever be brought to any negotiation table, and more so if it will ever be accepted by anyone unless all mainland Greeks who settled in Cyprus after 1963 (and there are many thousands of them!) will also get the same treatment! Now think abou it and tell me how possible that is in reality...
As for giving up romanticsms, I suggest you do the same for what really happened in 1974. Rather than TCs siding with anyone it was some fanatic GCs who sided with their compatriots in Greece to bring down the democratically elected ''president of Cyprus'', and kill their own nationals as well as starting on the TCs.
We had many posts debating and discussing the subject before and it transpired in those discussions that the truth is far from what the adult GCs of today were taught at schools. I really do not wish to go down that line again but if you insist I am open to further discussions...
I didn't mean to draw you into a discussion (too busy), but what I said related explicitly to illegal colonisation post 1974 and is not comparable to any Greeks which may have emigrated at any other time.
As for the coup, that also does not excuse what Turkey has done, and is continuing to do, with an occupation and colonisation of what is now EU territory!
I agree it may not compare but that added to the mass emmigration of TCs did add up to todays proportions of population.m Furthermore, ownership of land has nothing to do with the proportions of population since TCs owned 30% of land in Cyprus before the 1963 troubles! But that's besides the point. TCs are just as unhappy with mainlanders filling up the place of other TCs continuing to move out of the island because of no solution and no future.
You have to realise this is an ongoing process with no guarantee of a reversal. Unless of course the GCs stop making unrealistic demands about moving mass populations back to their own land (on both sides) and more importantly try and block all foreign trade / commerce /tourist routes for the TCs, thus making them even more dependant on the mainland Türkiye. Some of the GCs are really not aware of exactly what is happening. Cross over LOKMACI re gumbare! Cross over and wander around the TC part of old Nicosia... You will think you are in Adana!
