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Postby insan » Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:26 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...no mention of return of the displaced.

just money.

at least insan you tried to come up with a solution.

surprisingly, the manifesto i wrote allows for the equality of nations. i think that you cannot bear the thought that Cyprus is not "Turkish". ...you should read it.



I mentioned it on step 2 RP..

Step 2

Acceptance of the applications of all concerned parties(Legal owner, ex-occupiers and current occupier) with a detailed form containing their demands(restitution and/or exchange and/or compensation).


Restitution means return of the displaceds...
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Postby Paphitis » Sat Dec 19, 2009 6:36 pm

Step 3

Reducing the size of TRNC by a mutual agreement.


Agreed! Only if the 'trnc' is reduced to nothing!

Otherwise, goodbye until we meet again with our Steyr loaded and ready to go!
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Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:08 pm

thanks, insan, sorry...

but please, read my manifesto, you will see that it is possible to have two (or more) Nations in one State.

cheers!
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Postby insan » Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:55 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:thanks, insan, sorry...

but please, read my manifesto, you will see that it is possible to have two (or more) Nations in one State.

cheers!


I agree that it is possible.. if only individual, collective and group rights of these nations and it's minorities r respected and accepted by the larger nation of Cyprus which claims being the sole ruler of Cyprus and defining others as minorities of Cyprus... This is a fact RP... u can't deny it...

Putting TCs in minority status means disrespect and denial of our group rights as a nation... on this forum, except Bananiot; not just a single GC or Greek respect and accept political equality of 2 nations of Cyprus as it was defined in UN resolutions....
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Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:01 pm

...you really should take the time to read my manifesto.
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Postby aussieturk » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:08 am

paliometoxo wrote:how about solution to cy problem turks f off and go to turkey where they can have all the state they want and be "safe" from a war they started from the turks army


Your so funny and part of the problem :roll:
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Postby londoner » Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:22 pm

All fascists and ultra-nationalists should be deported to an uninhabited island and allowed to continue arguing or fighting for the rest of their miserable lives and let all true Cypriots get on with their lives. A small minority on each side has for too long been allowed to politically poison all hopes of a solution.
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Postby weiss » Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:47 pm

Cyprus: Federal structure and reunification
The Republic of Cyprus between 1960-1974 was a bi-communal unitary state. After the events in 1974 Cyprus, whose population used to be approximately 80 % Greek and 20 % Turkish, was practically divided into two parts (the Greek in the south and Turkish in the north), a state that has been preserved up to now. All attempts to settle the crisis failed. For the sake of a settlement the representatives of the two communities living on the island should elaborate and adopt a basic treaty which is later joined Greece and Turkey.
Multi-zonal division
The unitary state has no chance in these circumstances. The centralized state has to be shifted with federal structure. The bi-zonal state could bear the germs of a future secession. In the view of reestablishing and enhancing the political and economic unity of the island (reunification) the bi-zonal division would be replaced by a multi-zonal division. They would establish Greek and Turkish zones, according to the numerical ratio between the two communities in 1974. Number of the Greek zones will be more 3-4 times as the Turkish zones. However, the division by zones would not mean the separation of the two populations; the Greeks could settle in Turkish zones if they were born or lived there before 1st July 1974. This does not mean that those Greeks or Turks who arrived after July 1974 would have to leave the island; it means that they can only settle in the Greek or Turkish zones (Another possibility could be, stabilizing the Greek citizen at most 80 % and Turkish citizen at most 20 %). Both for the Greek and the Turkish Cypriots the two variants of solutions would ensure the right to resettle on native land. Taking as a starting-point the situation in 1974 proprietary rights must be ensured. The two Cypriot parties would both give up on all sorts of compensations. .
Bi-communal system
As far as the positions in government are concerned: 1.- the president of Cyprus is elected by the Greek community in Cyprus while the vice-president is elected by the Turkish community for a period of four years; or 2.- The president and the vice-president are elected as mentioned before for a period of three years. In the last year of the three-year mandate they exchange positions and in this way the island would have a Turkish president and a Greek vice-president every third year; or 3.-At the head of the country there would be two co-presidents, one of them Greek and the other Turkish and both of them would be elected for a period of four years. The legal system, the passing of local laws would fall upon the Territorial Assembly, the unicameral Cypriot Parliament. The Executive Council (the government) would manage the administrative activity. The proportion 70 to 30 would be preserved between the representatives of the two communities in both bodies. The basic treaty would regulate the domains where the representatives of the Turkish population would have the right to veto. A Surveying Commission would also be constituted including 15 members as representatives of three other states. One of them is Great Britain.
Elements of the double sovereignty!
“The Cypriot flag is the best flag in the world because it is the only one for which nobody would die”- said by an Cypriot Greek politician. It is a fact that many people have already sacrificed their lives for either the union of Cyprus and Greece (enosis) or for their division (taksim) but nobody has ever done this for a unified Cyprus. That is why in the case of any kind of solution or compromise one should take into consideration the strong emotional bonds which connect the Cypriot Greeks and Cypriot Turks to their mother countries, Greece and Turkey. The Greek and Turkish inhabitants of Cyprus would be double citizens: the Greeks would have Cypriot and Greek while the Turks would have Cypriot and Turkish citizenship. The first would accomplish military service in the Greek army, the latter in the Turkish one. The basic treaty would also establish the number of Greek and Turkish military personnel that would be stationed on the island (10000 Greek soldiers and 6000 Turkish soldiers). The governments in Athens and Ankara would appoint each a chief-commissioner. The Greek citizens would be under the jurisdiction of the Greek chief-commissioner and the Turks under that of the Turkish chief-commissioner. Two official languages, two banners and hymns, two police forces would be introduced. The two mother-states, Greece and Turkey send five representatives each to the Coordinating Council. These dispositions already remind us of some elements of the double sovereignty (the sovereignty of two states over the same territory). After this the obstacle which prevents the entire island from joining the European Union could be put aside. As far as the representation to the European Union is concerned Cyprus would follow the Belgian model. Cyprus would be a bi-communal and multi-zonal country, which would be tied to the mother-states Greece and Turkey by special institutionalized relations.
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Re: Solution of the Cyprus Problem.

Postby EPSILON » Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:23 pm

insan wrote:Step 1

Establishment of an impartial, bi-communal properties board.

Step 2

Acceptance of the applications of all concerned parties(Legal owner, ex-occupiers and current occupier) with a detailed form containing their demands(restitution and/or exchange and/or compensation).

Step 3

Reducing the size of TRNC by a mutual agreement.

Step 4

Continuing the negotiations to find a viable, safe solution on the basic principles; BBF and political equality of 2 communities.

Step 5

If agreed hugs and kisses.

Step 6

If not agreed kiss each other goodbye. :D


...Appointing Ertogan as prime minister of Cyprus, and Turkish airforces as guarantor of Cyprus airspace.Pls also add territorial water of Cyprus under the control of Turkish navy and then you get a signature from your government.
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Postby paliometoxo » Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:40 pm

aussieturk wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:how about solution to cy problem turks f off and go to turkey where they can have all the state they want and be "safe" from a war they started from the turks army


Your so funny and part of the problem :roll:


the point of that post was to show we will never accept two states,
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