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A Greek Cypriot friend told me that....

Postby insan » Mon Jun 07, 2004 12:53 pm

A Greek Cypriot frined told me:


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"The sooner they start working together, the sooner they will find happiness. Otherwise, they will become strangers in the own place, and one day they will pack and leave. Cyprus will become a resort for rich Europeans, spies and military bases. They will have the right to call themselves Cypriots also. They will be able to vote also. Who is going to protect who, from what, then?"



And I told to him:

I've been always ready to work together with all of my compatriots for reunification, rapproachment, brotherhood of Cypriots. I made 8 bi-communal projects and bring them to the Cyprus only bi-communal radio station and made my application.(It is sad to see that there's no just a single private bi-communal radio station on both sides of the Island.

4 out of 8 of my radio proggrame projects had been approved by the authors of CYBC. I still have a hope that they will call me this year.


My understanding of working together includes working together on a common history understanding too. It is obvious that ones mistake is the other ones glory according to two different history books of Cypriots. So how can we expect our children to take lessons of history and don't do those mistakes again?

I bet they will do harder discussions on history than us. And you know teenagers have more tendency than adults to find an excuse using their fists, knives etc to make others to obbey them.

And you also should know that alcohol and drugs usage is more common than the 60s and 70s. This is too raises the risk of a serious gang fight amongst them because of the misunderstanding and dissensions on historical facts.

I'd like to be a journalist and make a call to all Cypriots;invite them "let's do this and that together.."

Let's say 30 bi-communal projects have been made and published by a newspaper... it calls the volunteers of both communities to take part, participate. In 1 month time 5000 volunteers come together to take their parts, participate and contribute for those bi-communal projects... Wouldn't it be excellent?

But where are those "advance", "Better Greek and better Turk Cypriots" to make their projects and offer them to volunteers?

Pohhh! Everything gives me pain in Cyprus but its my motherland I love her and I still have hope that everything will be allright one day.

Things take time to be achieved but if don't do what you are able to do; things never can be achieved. Everyone tells me "siga siga, yavas yavas we are going to solve the problem and reunify our country..."

I ask what you are doing to solve the problem and unify your country, tells me nothing... So?

How will it be solved by itself?


What's your opinions?






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Re: A Greek Cypriot friend told me that....

Postby michalis5354 » Tue Jun 08, 2004 1:40 pm

insan wrote:I ask what you are doing to solve the problem and unify your country, tells me nothing... So?

How will it be solved by itself?


What's your opinions?

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My opinion is that there is not clear agreement on the type of solution that we are searching for. Basicaly we do not know what we want!

I think Politicians are there to solve problems and not to make problems more complicated.Do you think that If you put all politicians in a round table to discuss the problem will they be able to arrive in a mutual agreement on the Cyprus issue. No This is a reflection on what we are passing through.

Then UN , USA intervene and then being accused of pursuing their own interest. This is a hypocricy. Politicians are there to solve problems . Thats the reason have been elected for and they are paid for AGAINST Public funds.

The solution that may had been suitable 40 years ago may not be appropriate now given the circumstances that we passed and aggreements made. Instead of looking forward they look Back . Their vision is still in the pAst. This is my personal opinion and will not change.

How can people who were directly invloved in Cyprus issue on the decade of 60 being capable of bringing change and new direction? This is my question. Nowwhere in the world politicians remain in public life for so long 40 - 50 years . Because this is a crime against the new generation and new ideas!
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Re: A Greek Cypriot friend told me that....

Postby insan » Tue Jun 08, 2004 2:38 pm

michalis5354 wrote:Nowwhere in the world politicians remain in public life for so long 40 - 50 years . Because this is a crime against the new generation and new ideas!


Dear michalis5354

If so that I too believe that it is as you stated why can't majority of Cypriots support this idea. Logicaly, if they were aware of incapability of the politicians they elected, they should hold a demonstartion to protest them and demand their resignation. They afraid of something in "free" areas and "occupied" areas to make a demonstartion against those incapable criminal politicians? Or aren't they aware of their incapability and crimes? Or majority of the "advance", "better Turk and better Greek" Cypriots share the same views with those politicians they elected?

What's your opinion?


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our elderly leaders

Postby Oneness » Tue Jun 08, 2004 4:50 pm

How can people who were directly invloved in Cyprus issue on the decade of 60 being capable of bringing change and new direction? This is my question. Nowwhere in the world politicians remain in public life for so long 40 - 50 years .


This is a good question. Another way of putting it is : How can men who for many years helped bring about the division of Cyprus (fighting for enosis and taksim) be trusted to reunify Cyprus?!?

In those days priorities were different, ancient ideals like glory prevailed but since then justice peace and prosperity have become more important. I dont look at those ideals with resentment because they are history and the lessons of the mistakes of our past. I do not think they are innately bad but for how they are selfish and incompatible ... for how they destroy the greater good. We are not only ourselves, we have to learn to share with others. We have to think we can each have some of the "good" rather than it is either you win or I lose.

Of course, in those days those facist policies had more supporters. Now it is mainly the older generation who still shows lack of will to reconcile and find a solution. Why not a larger younger generation of politicians then?

Why is it that age and seniority are so closely linked in Cyprus politics? Is it the population who prefer old politicians or is it some other force like the masons? I don't know about the north but masons are led by old men who are also leaders of business and government etc.
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Postby michalis5354 » Sat Jun 12, 2004 2:27 pm

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Since you ask my opinion on this. My opinion is that a big demonstration is needed from both young TCs and GCs to establish the strong cypriot identity on the island which has been illegally violated by the Foreigners ( Greece, Turkey, UK , and GC and TC extremist).
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Re: our elderly leaders

Postby michalis5354 » Sat Jun 12, 2004 7:25 pm

Oneness wrote:Why is it that age and seniority are so closely linked in Cyprus politics? Is it the population who prefer old politicians or is it some other force like the masons? I don't know about the north but masons are led by old men who are also leaders of business and government etc.


This is another big demonstration that is needed. In order to remove all those at the power who can no longer contribute to the country but they lack willingness to resign. They are there to satisfy their own personal interest , glory and not national Interest as you know personal and national interest do not always go together.
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