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Benefits and problems from the EU membership.

Should the EU Bird Protection Directives be fully enforced in Cyprus (north and south)

Yes, it should be fully enforced
18
78%
No, it should be observed but in a relaxed way
5
22%
 
Total votes : 23

Postby insan » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:31 pm

Paphitis wrote:I voted no, because I absolutely love the Cypriot delicacy of Ampelopoullia...Yum! :D


I too love the taste of pulya and i used to hunt them by dozens but for the sake of protecting the balance of nature and wildlife i gave up hunting and eating pulya since it was prohibitted by law. Therefore, I voted yes.
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Postby Pax » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:32 pm

Get Real! wrote:Hunting should only be allowed every other year to give the poor birdies a chance to multiply!


If it only takes one generation to be missed in one year for a population collapse then how does waiting two years help ? One 'fallow' year will only, at best, give very minor recovery.
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Postby Bananiot » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:54 pm

Make it even, let the bird have guns.
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Postby bill cobbett » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:16 pm

Pax wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Why isn't there an option in the poll for those who wish to tell the EU and others to keep their bleeding noses out of this important aspect of CY Culture?


Funny you should say that - I did include an option that almost said word for word what you've just suggested. I thought it had been registered but when I pressed submit it didn't appear. Is there anyway of re-setting poll questions ?


Sorry mate/matess, you only get one shot at the birdie when setting up polls. Can't be modified after submission.
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Postby Nikitas » Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:22 pm

"What happens to ampelopoullia when the birds no longer return because of ecological collapse resulting from excessive/improper hunting ?"

Your question shows that you haven't a clue about ecology or biology or wildlfie management. With ambelopoulia trapping gone there is no motive to keep their habitat in Cyprus intact. That is why buildings are mushrooming around Paralimini, Protaras, and surrouounding villages.

So Pax, do you think that with concrete instead of acacia plantations there is now more or less ambelopoulia? What does the annual bird count in Bird Life say?

And what is wrong with Cyprus hunting seasons? They are the shortest in Europe and well within the ambit of the 409/79 Birds Directive. So why do you get a bug up your ass over this?

But guys like you do not really care about wildllife. You are just a moral high grounder who wants to feel good inside by fooling himself that he has done something good. It is a kind of masturbation that justifies the term malakas.

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Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:48 pm

Years ago in Cyprus, I remember looking up at the skies and seeing flocks of birds flying around and chirping, but these days NOTHING! :?

Not even bloody sparrows anymore!

Where the fuck have all the birds of Cyprus gone Nikitas??? :evil:
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Postby Oracle » Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:18 am

You can get nice Quorn substitutes ....
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Postby Talisker » Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:19 am

Get Real! wrote:Years ago in Cyprus, I remember looking up at the skies and seeing flocks of birds flying around and chirping, but these days NOTHING! :?

Not even bloody sparrows anymore!

Where the fuck have all the birds of Cyprus gone Nikitas??? :evil:

Yeah, I'd always been told there were loads of crapping birds on Cyprus' beaches, but I've never seen a single one. Or maybe I misheard. :?
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Postby JimB » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:37 am

LMAO. You guy's were more than happy to take the euro money.

Guess what - they don't give a flying f about your culture, your antiquated views or anything else really apart from levying higher and higher fines on you for failing to do what your told. They will take back every single cent with interest and then keep on going till there's nothing left - you guy's just keep giving them the excuses to do it (CO2 emissions, human rights abuses, failing to implement EU directives, the list goes on).

As far as hunting is concerned I don't have a problem. Trapping however is another issue, lime sticks and nets aren't very sportsman like. Dehydration and a lingering painful death is the result of those methods.

Be a man and use a gun in your pursuit of food and sustenance for your family. Heaven knows, you guy's need all the practice with a firearm you can get (who can forget the sorry tale of the hunter and the dog last year?).

Don't kid me that you preserve land for the good of the birds / wildlife. 'Build it and they will come' was the Cypriot mantra till a very short time ago (remember the Russian money backed theme park?). If the land had any value you'd concrete over it in a second. The reason your olive and citrus groves are disappearing is that there's no water to water them due to the short sighted and corrupt practices of successive governments. Even if you had the water there's nobody left to tend to the land as none of your kids want to touch it. There aren't that many farmers driving Mercs or Beemers and the kids feel a bit of a dick cruising up and down the Limassol strip on a donkey ......

Face it - your way of life is, just like you and your old fashioned ideals, dying out. Becoming extinct.

Talking of extinction. The Cyprus pine forests are rapidly being destroyed by a moth and it's larvae. Too late to be bothered to search for the news paper articles - Cyprus Mail about six months ago I think.

Birds eat insects ..... migratory birds eat lots of insects.

Try encouraging more birds and wildlife into your national parks and you may, just may, be able to do something to save your beloved Troodos et al.

Malakas indeed.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:12 am

JimB wrote:LMAO. You guy's were more than happy to take the euro money.

Guess what - they don't give a flying f about your culture, your antiquated views or anything else really apart from levying higher and higher fines on you for failing to do what your told. They will take back every single cent with interest and then keep on going till there's nothing left - you guy's just keep giving them the excuses to do it (CO2 emissions, human rights abuses, failing to implement EU directives, the list goes on).

The UK is also paying heaps of fines every year, including for their notorious fox and badger hunting/killing, so don’t assume that they’re the “civilized” ones! :lol:
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